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TheProle

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38. It's understandable and it's often personal since they are the other major party nationally.
Mon May 5, 2025, 02:47 PM
May 2025

However, diplomacy and co-existence often require us to listen and sometimes even cooperate with those with even abhorrent ideologies.

Iran's government, for instance, is homophobic, sexist and anti-semitic, hangs gays from cranes and funds terrorism around the world.

We still talk to them and negotiate with them. Democrats rightly skewered the right when they feigned outrage at President Obama's suggestion that he might sit down with Iran.

Going into a bubble might be satisfying as an individual, but in the grander scheme of things, it stalls progress.

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Thank you. My local npr station put on an hour of republicans as if they were normal. And cbabe May 2025 #1
I care not for what nazis think. Basso8vb May 2025 #2
It's akin to not listening to narcissists try to no_hypocrisy May 2025 #3
Same here. Aristus May 2025 #4
Me, too. I don't wanna hear their half assed reasons for voting R. However, I will gladly say to them: CTyankee May 2025 #58
And it will blueseas May 2025 #63
I just don't think they will awaken. It is the nature of a cult. AllyCat May 2025 #72
If it's a waste of time, I wouldn't engage further. CTyankee May 2025 #74
I could not agree with you more! Mountain Mule May 2025 #60
And since when have MAGA or the GOP ever been interested thucythucy May 2025 #5
Excellent. I agree. LoisB May 2025 #6
My uncles understood people who defended similar beliefs. And they sent them all to early graves 80 years ago. Efilroft Sul May 2025 #7
I do talk to MAGA every day and have all along. I listen to what they have to say. Midnight Writer May 2025 #8
Might those people have different beliefs if their news sources were more like Reuters and CBS... Martin Eden May 2025 #9
Most don't watch news or belong to a church. They listen to talk radio, Facebook, and prosperity Gospel. Midnight Writer May 2025 #15
What we're really up against is decades of "conservative" propaganda Martin Eden May 2025 #21
And many who only have over the air (OTA) antennae get blue_jay May 2025 #30
Amen means I agree, ... aggiesal May 2025 #10
Amen! blue_jay May 2025 #32
In hindsight, "Deplorables" sounds like such a charitable nickname. kentuck May 2025 #11
Freedom and democracy or fascism and dictatorship. Hotler May 2025 #12
i dont want to hear their whining when the cost of stuff goes up in 4 weeks time . u get what u pay 3. AllaN01Bear May 2025 #13
MAGA voter opinion, egg prices are too high Johonny May 2025 #14
Here, here Coolgoober May 2025 #16
Abuse Cirsium May 2025 #17
MAGA is nothing of substance. hadEnuf May 2025 #18
Being tolerant of intolerance doesn't work. love_katz May 2025 #19
Your last paragraph says it all, love_katz. calimary May 2025 #28
Intolerance is a violation of the social contract misanthrope May 2025 #62
Amen - could not agree more. waterwatcher123 May 2025 #20
Amen. Joinfortmill May 2025 #22
Great post! yonder May 2025 #23
Im sure there's a secret formula for turning many. I havent found it yet but will report back if I do SSJVegeta May 2025 #24
I remember how some folks try to tell me that I needed to "understand" the folks who voted "Uncommitted" as well as * Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #25
I understand them just fine .. haele May 2025 #40
Excellent post. Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #41
Well said! c-rational May 2025 #26
BINGO! ScoutHikerDad May 2025 #27
Also because they have little to no principles or factual basis, they will say anything RockRaven May 2025 #29
You can't talk cult members out of believing in their cult leader. No logic or persuasion will work. elocs May 2025 #36
I seriously doubt that MAGA has ever been asked the same thing about us karynnj May 2025 #31
I haven't listened to them since the first go-round. llmart May 2025 #33
Excellent exprrsdion of how I feel. Thanks for thr words. KPN May 2025 #34
I agree... IthinkThereforeIAM May 2025 #35
Not completely pointless Nasruddin May 2025 #37
It's understandable and it's often personal since they are the other major party nationally. TheProle May 2025 #38
I appreciate the tone you're aiming for, AStern May 2025 #39
And do you think what we're currently experiencing isn't a form of war? EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #55
We're not ignoring people--we're refusing to center or legitimize views that attack basic rights. AStern May 2025 #56
So you want us to sit down with Nazi fascists? Kingofalldems May 2025 #42
I offered an alternative viewpoint to the OP TheProle May 2025 #45
I hear this argument a lot--that there are "inroads" to be made with Republicans and Independents--but... AStern May 2025 #52
If you can point to where I said to pander to anyone.... TheProle May 2025 #53
You may not have explicitly said "pander," AStern May 2025 #54
That's what Newsom wants to do if I'm reading it right. Especially about the Democratic Bengus81 May 2025 #76
If that's the route Newsom wants to take, more power to him. AStern May 2025 #77
Kick this for the MAGA trolls. Kingofalldems May 2025 #43
heh Skittles May 2025 #66
And clearly they aren't interested in listening to other opinions, or capable of empathy.... Blue Owl May 2025 #44
What we should understand is how decades of right-wing propaganda created MAGAts... CaptainTruth May 2025 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author AStern May 2025 #51
I agree completely. We're being told how we need to listen to the poor MAGAs, but listen to what? Vinca May 2025 #47
THANK YOU Skittles May 2025 #48
100% TBF May 2025 #49
AStern, You speak for me. Thank you! MuirHero May 2025 #50
We know everything there is to know JustAnotherGen May 2025 #57
My complaint - cab67 May 2025 #59
This perspective of maga is essential, long read, well worth it Clouds Passing May 2025 #61
Excellent article. Very scary read. love_katz May 2025 #73
This cabal of spoiled rich kids have no sense of reality. They believe they can create a fake world Clouds Passing May 2025 #75
I refuse to feed their delusions of normalcy mdbl May 2025 #64
The only point to understanding someone who is demonstrably destructive soldierant May 2025 #65
Amen. Reminds me of Facebook/reels. As I said in another post, people who are so far .. chouchou May 2025 #67
Never in my life have I heard serious calls for the Right to listen to the Left Orrex May 2025 #68
It's not just a difference in morality. It's a difference in reality. SunSeeker May 2025 #69
We've had 10 years to listen to them and understand them Justice Brandeis May 2025 #70
It's hate, pure & simple RainCaster May 2025 #71
Listening to these idiots and allowing them to have their say all over the media is what got us here. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #78
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