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In reply to the discussion: Intellectual Honesty Test. Would you have been offended by "86-46" jargon thrown around a year ago? [View all]JHB
(37,809 posts)110. Why do you highlight that part and not other, more prominent portions of the same page?
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In the hospitality industry, it is used to indicate that an item is no longer available, traditionally from a food or drinks establishment, or referring to a person or people who are not welcome on the premises. Its etymology is unknown, but the term seems to have been coined in the 1920s or 1930s.
Etymology
There are many theories about the origin of the term. Possible origins include:
Rhyming slang for nix.[1]
Part of the jargon used by soda jerks. Walter Winchell wrote about this in 1933, in his syndicated On Broadway column.[2] In this, the code 13 meant that a boss was around, 81 was a glass of water and 86 meant "all out of it".[3] Professor Harold Bentley of Columbia University studied soda jerk jargon and reported other numeric codes such as 95 for a customer leaving without paying.[4]
Author Jef Klein theorized that the bar Chumley's at 86 Bedford Street in the West Village of Lower Manhattan was the source. His book The History and Stories of the Best Bars of New York claims that the police would call Chumley's bar during Prohibition before making a raid and tell the bartender to "86" his customers, meaning that they should exit out the 86 Bedford Street door, while the police would come to the Pamela Court entrance.[5]
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Intellectual Honesty Test. Would you have been offended by "86-46" jargon thrown around a year ago? [View all]
WarGamer
May 2025
OP
So the fact that the majority of us in the modern era think it means to get sacked, canned, ...
Hekate
May 2025
#15
Why do you highlight that part and not other, more prominent portions of the same page?
JHB
May 2025
#110
I'm fine with it considering the say so many other worse terrible things. And I understood what it meant
Walleye
May 2025
#3
The party of butt-hurt boys. They know damn well what it means they're just being drama queens
Walleye
May 2025
#5
What segment of the population threw baby fits when Amazon sold this merch?
Hassin Bin Sober
May 2025
#71
Probably more than think the ok hand gesture is a white supremist symbol ....nt
kelly1mm
May 2025
#81
There was an 8646 bumper sticker in my neighborhood. I was tempted, but I never keyed the car.
Scrivener7
May 2025
#9
Everyone who ever went into a music club or bar knows it means to get tossed out or banned
blm
May 2025
#11
Yes, it might also mean that, but it hasn't been a common use in my not so sheltered life
Ilikepurple
May 2025
#22
You are "troubled by the coarseness in politics" --yet you pass it along to us & demand we be accountable for it
Hekate
May 2025
#114
Comey knew it was wrong. He just wanted attention. This fool is not on our side. He sabotaged Hillary.
Pisces
May 2025
#31
How I've always understood the term 86 it is to eject someone or cut off contact
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
May 2025
#34
I had never seen the 86 46 stuff... probably because I don't digest RWNJ content...
WarGamer
May 2025
#58
I didn't know about it because there were far worse things being said by MAGAts about Biden at the time.
W_HAMILTON
May 2025
#72
The rise of political violence in our country has been primarily due to ever-increasing Republican extremism.
W_HAMILTON
May 2025
#75
Just because you have a right to say something doesn't mean it's right to say it.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2025
#62
Agree. It was minor drivel until Dotard and his cult got his panties twisted in a wad.
Norrrm
May 2025
#84
86-46 would have been one of the least offensive things MAGA said or posted publically.
mackdaddy
May 2025
#92
I only knew the term in the speakeasy sense and to generally mean "to get rid of".
lapucelle
May 2025
#100
When the kitchen tells a waiter to "86" the roast chicken, it doesn't mean...
LudwigPastorius
May 2025
#109