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In reply to the discussion: Democrats are too old. [View all]

JustAnotherGen

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32. This makes me wonder
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:05 PM
May 21

Who the specific young people are.

Bernie is our most charismatic politician with the average voter. I know large portions of this space don't like to hear it, but it's true. Go into any political area with Democrats and liberals under 50, and they're talking about Bernie. AOC is probably second on that list, with Crockett and Buttigieg moving up the list.

But the party has a very difficult time allowing space for these people. The careerists have all the power, the hands controlling the machinery, the money and donor base (who are not our friends) to maintain their positions (and all the wealth and dynasty that goes with it) that disallows for movement and growth.


The thing about the 'rising tides lift all boats' ideology is that the Democratic Party Base has 165 years of evidence that this is never the case. Sanders himself has been there 35 years.

Crockett in particular 'Sees Us'. Bernie simply doesn't see the Democratic Party base - he's only required to when he runs for President. When he does see us, he uses language that rejects us as pragmatic moderate oligarchs and millionaires and billionaires. He can't relate to us and does not WANT to. He won't admit that Black women are a HUGE chunk of the working class and the working poor.

Trump wins a second time: Now we have a problem where the party base has moved from 'pragmatic/moderate' -

To I want my pound of flesh, I want blood, this is my physical survival - tear this entire fucker down and rebuilt without ANY of the old bullshit we've had shoved down our throats for 160 years.

Someone on here who joined around the same time I did messaged me: Are you okay? You have gone dark. Yep - I sure have. I'm okay with secession, blood letting, violence - as long as my family is free and more important - Comes First in the new society - the Great Society that Lyndon B. Johnson promised us.

I want a new Great Society - not another bullshit 'new deal'.

The person who wins in 2028 or when the regime falls (seeing Don Jr feels called to run for President so we could be looking at 5 to 10 years to overthrow this regime) - Will speak to the vengeance a large number of Black women want. We've turned the cheek too many times - it's now time to start punishing people.




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Democrats are too old. [View all] Self Esteem May 21 OP
Not enough young people are politiacally aware randr May 21 #1
Not that it was a whole lot better a half-century ago or longer EYESORE 9001 May 21 #5
It is way, way past time to call for Chuck Schumer Ars Longa May 21 #57
Then the American people have to get involved Keepthesoulalive May 21 #2
An unpopular opinion k_buddy762 May 21 #3
Young doesn't mean good for the party Keepthesoulalive May 21 #13
My Senators Warren and Markey are older stillcool May 21 #4
It's Only Scary Optics RobinA May 21 #6
They're old, because they never want to leave. Omnipresent May 21 #7
There are many younger democrats . You picked out some that died JI7 May 21 #8
I would agree that we need a youth movement in the Party. kentuck May 21 #9
I don't worry about ageism in Congress because there are few to none not already set for life if they leave. RoeVWade May 21 #10
It's time to hand over the keys to AOC. InAbLuEsTaTe May 21 #11
So let's run AOC and Crockett on the national ticket JI7 May 21 #12
But will the young people get off their butts and get to the polls to vote for these two? hamsterjill May 21 #15
I wish I could say you're wrong, PatSeg May 21 #49
In the 90s many said Schumer couldn't win statewide. SocialDemocrat61 May 21 #45
At least the Democrats announce when a serving member passes or are AWOL... Hugin May 21 #14
WHY DON'T DEMS STOP STATUS QUO AGING, ILLNESS AND DEATH!!!!!!!!!!! betsuni May 21 #16
Age is a problem. But there's also a charisma vacuum Sympthsical May 21 #17
This makes me wonder JustAnotherGen May 21 #32
Identarian politics has created a Democratic coalition that is extremely fractious Sympthsical May 21 #39
I'm 52 JustAnotherGen May 21 #47
You'll get no argument from me Sympthsical May 21 #59
We have another difference JustAnotherGen May 22 #69
This... progressoid May 21 #62
Oh, please. At least mention nearly 80-year-old trump and even older Mitch McConnell... brush May 21 #18
I literally mentioned both in my post. Self Esteem May 21 #20
You did? Sorry I have little patience for posts bashing Dems with lines like this... brush May 21 #34
So you doubt their sincerity after you didn't accurately read what they posted? EdmondDantes_ May 21 #37
Apparently you didn't read both of my posts. brush May 21 #40
Some democrats Keepthesoulalive May 21 #22
Yes, involvement is key. Hugin May 21 #23
That's just factually not true Arazi May 21 #35
You too? Pls read post 18 and 34. Trump is nearly 80 and Moscow Mitch is even older. brush May 21 #38
I'm going to say something radical brush JustAnotherGen May 21 #48
I agree with you on the reasons trump won....Palestinians for trump, Latinos for trump, young white men for trump etc.. brush May 21 #60
This senior citizen agrees with you. yardwork May 21 #19
Old tree make way for young tree Beringia May 21 #21
I have never seen old tree uproot itself for young tree. nt delisen May 21 #28
What most persons consider as virtue, after the age of 40 is simply a loss of energy. Voltaire Ping Tung May 21 #24
I am in total agreement with you!! The younger people are inheriting this mess. cornball 24 May 21 #25
You are near the end JustAnotherGen May 21 #50
Schumer standing down IMMEDIATELY would be a tremendous start to the process of revamping leadership. NoMoreRepugs May 21 #26
Hey, it's not our fault that Republicans are immortal. (nt) Paladin May 21 #27
Typo: you added a "t" to "Immoral". JustABozoOnThisBus May 21 #36
Never dying is something to get worked up about, not too many House Dems dying this year or 13 not dying fast enough betsuni May 21 #54
Are Democrats older than Republicans? Polybius May 21 #29
They are actually very similar.... Ol Janx Spirit May 21 #43
We need people who are younger, more savvy about tech not afraid to push for upgrades and to modernise the government Srkdqltr May 21 #30
F.Y.I. Young people die too. Cancer, heart disease, and stroke don't care what age you are. sinkingfeeling May 21 #31
They seem to be afraid that younger Democrats aren't as conservative AStern May 21 #33
You mean against Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 21 #51
Appreciate the reply, but the tone feels a bit off. AStern May 21 #55
Kenyatta has been put in the Status Quo Establishment binder and cannot be progressive, young, or good. betsuni May 21 #56
I'm not even a fan of Nina Turner--her style wasn't for me--but AStern May 21 #58
This gets to the point. It's not an age thing. It's a "soul of the party" thing. meadowlander May 21 #66
When I came of political age in the 80s, I looked at the two parties... Ol Janx Spirit May 21 #41
I have some objections to this EdmondDantes_ May 21 #42
100% agree mike_c May 21 #44
Also, we need to stop having seriously ill or unhealthy incumbents/candidates selfishly run when they know they are in Celerity May 21 #46
2008 H2O Man May 21 #52
Clinton too when he ran... Self Esteem May 21 #63
Good call! H2O Man May 21 #68
My issue is that they are not in great health, but want to die in office Wanderlust988 May 21 #53
I don't disagree with that... Self Esteem May 21 #64
So what office are you running for? Or encouraging youngsters to run for? Hekate May 21 #61
Huh? Self Esteem May 21 #65
Then the youth should follow their own advice and "earn their votes." W_HAMILTON May 21 #67
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