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In reply to the discussion: Democrats are too old. [View all]

meadowlander

(4,950 posts)
66. This gets to the point. It's not an age thing. It's a "soul of the party" thing.
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:37 PM
May 2025

When I was young in the late 70s/early 80s, the Democrats were unabashedly the party of the young, the working class, minorities, the counter-culture. It was cool to be a Democrat while the Republicans were greedy out-of-touch old fogies and God-bothering hypocrites.

Then in the 90s with the Clintons, the party shifted significantly more towards the middle to try to appeal to economic conservatives and to solicit more campaign contributions from corporations. And it worked for a while because it convinced the majority of people that the Democratic party was a safe pair of hands that wasn't going to do anything too crazy to crash the economy.

And all the party leaders now are of that generation. And don't want to admit that that approach isn't going to work anymore if Trump is eating into our base among blue collar workers and non-college educated voters. So they don't want to give up power because they are afraid that the next generation of leadership will swing the party back towards its traditional values (or even further to the left) which may mean more difficulty fundraising and appealing to middle of the road voters.

But what is the point of fundraising if you have no message or core values - if you can't just say plainly "the rich need to pay more taxes to support social programs that create the work force and social conditions that enabled them to get rich in the first place".

Everyone knows that's the truth but many core elements of the Democratic party are losing faith in the party's willingness or ability to fight for those values. And they see that personified in octogenarian party leadership and its reluctance to fight fascism full-throatedly for fear of scaring off the donors.

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Democrats are too old. [View all] Self Esteem May 2025 OP
Not enough young people are politiacally aware randr May 2025 #1
Not that it was a whole lot better a half-century ago or longer EYESORE 9001 May 2025 #5
It is way, way past time to call for Chuck Schumer Ars Longa May 2025 #57
Then the American people have to get involved Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #2
An unpopular opinion k_buddy762 May 2025 #3
Young doesn't mean good for the party Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #13
My Senators Warren and Markey are older stillcool May 2025 #4
It's Only Scary Optics RobinA May 2025 #6
They're old, because they never want to leave. Omnipresent May 2025 #7
There are many younger democrats . You picked out some that died JI7 May 2025 #8
I would agree that we need a youth movement in the Party. kentuck May 2025 #9
I don't worry about ageism in Congress because there are few to none not already set for life if they leave. RoeVWade May 2025 #10
It's time to hand over the keys to AOC. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2025 #11
So let's run AOC and Crockett on the national ticket JI7 May 2025 #12
But will the young people get off their butts and get to the polls to vote for these two? hamsterjill May 2025 #15
I wish I could say you're wrong, PatSeg May 2025 #49
In the 90s many said Schumer couldn't win statewide. SocialDemocrat61 May 2025 #45
At least the Democrats announce when a serving member passes or are AWOL... Hugin May 2025 #14
WHY DON'T DEMS STOP STATUS QUO AGING, ILLNESS AND DEATH!!!!!!!!!!! betsuni May 2025 #16
Age is a problem. But there's also a charisma vacuum Sympthsical May 2025 #17
This makes me wonder JustAnotherGen May 2025 #32
Identarian politics has created a Democratic coalition that is extremely fractious Sympthsical May 2025 #39
I'm 52 JustAnotherGen May 2025 #47
You'll get no argument from me Sympthsical May 2025 #59
We have another difference JustAnotherGen May 22 #69
This... progressoid May 2025 #62
Oh, please. At least mention nearly 80-year-old trump and even older Mitch McConnell... brush May 2025 #18
I literally mentioned both in my post. Self Esteem May 2025 #20
You did? Sorry I have little patience for posts bashing Dems with lines like this... brush May 2025 #34
So you doubt their sincerity after you didn't accurately read what they posted? EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #37
Apparently you didn't read both of my posts. brush May 2025 #40
Some democrats Keepthesoulalive May 2025 #22
Yes, involvement is key. Hugin May 2025 #23
That's just factually not true Arazi May 2025 #35
You too? Pls read post 18 and 34. Trump is nearly 80 and Moscow Mitch is even older. brush May 2025 #38
I'm going to say something radical brush JustAnotherGen May 2025 #48
I agree with you on the reasons trump won....Palestinians for trump, Latinos for trump, young white men for trump etc.. brush May 2025 #60
This senior citizen agrees with you. yardwork May 2025 #19
Old tree make way for young tree Beringia May 2025 #21
I have never seen old tree uproot itself for young tree. nt delisen May 2025 #28
What most persons consider as virtue, after the age of 40 is simply a loss of energy. Voltaire Ping Tung May 2025 #24
I am in total agreement with you!! The younger people are inheriting this mess. cornball 24 May 2025 #25
You are near the end JustAnotherGen May 2025 #50
Schumer standing down IMMEDIATELY would be a tremendous start to the process of revamping leadership. NoMoreRepugs May 2025 #26
Hey, it's not our fault that Republicans are immortal. (nt) Paladin May 2025 #27
Typo: you added a "t" to "Immoral". JustABozoOnThisBus May 2025 #36
Never dying is something to get worked up about, not too many House Dems dying this year or 13 not dying fast enough betsuni May 2025 #54
Are Democrats older than Republicans? Polybius May 2025 #29
They are actually very similar.... Ol Janx Spirit May 2025 #43
We need people who are younger, more savvy about tech not afraid to push for upgrades and to modernise the government Srkdqltr May 2025 #30
F.Y.I. Young people die too. Cancer, heart disease, and stroke don't care what age you are. sinkingfeeling May 2025 #31
They seem to be afraid that younger Democrats aren't as conservative AStern May 2025 #33
You mean against Malcom Kenyatta JustAnotherGen May 2025 #51
Appreciate the reply, but the tone feels a bit off. AStern May 2025 #55
Kenyatta has been put in the Status Quo Establishment binder and cannot be progressive, young, or good. betsuni May 2025 #56
I'm not even a fan of Nina Turner--her style wasn't for me--but AStern May 2025 #58
This gets to the point. It's not an age thing. It's a "soul of the party" thing. meadowlander May 2025 #66
When I came of political age in the 80s, I looked at the two parties... Ol Janx Spirit May 2025 #41
I have some objections to this EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #42
100% agree mike_c May 2025 #44
Also, we need to stop having seriously ill or unhealthy incumbents/candidates selfishly run when they know they are in Celerity May 2025 #46
2008 H2O Man May 2025 #52
Clinton too when he ran... Self Esteem May 2025 #63
Good call! H2O Man May 2025 #68
My issue is that they are not in great health, but want to die in office Wanderlust988 May 2025 #53
I don't disagree with that... Self Esteem May 2025 #64
So what office are you running for? Or encouraging youngsters to run for? Hekate May 2025 #61
Huh? Self Esteem May 2025 #65
Then the youth should follow their own advice and "earn their votes." W_HAMILTON May 2025 #67
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