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intheflow

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27. Honestly, this seems like dismissing Thomas Jefferson because he owned enslaved people.

Reply to RandomNumbers (Reply #5)

Sat May 31, 2025, 02:35 PM

May 31

Bose is complicated, and from our Western European stand point Nazi-sympathizer = evil fascist. And I'd support that in 98% of the applications. However, we're talking about someone from another culture at a time when India was trying to gain independence from England. To dismiss him out of hand strikes me as a little racist (though probably unconsciously).

Our world is complicated, humans are complicated, and history is messy. If someone wore a t-shirt with Thomas Jefferson's image, would you automatically assume the person was a MAGA-level racist? No, because Jefferson is a hero here in very much the same way Bose is in India. Both did bad things but they also brought independence to their respected countries.

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Can young Democrats really threaten Pelosi's old guard? [View all] Jilly_in_VA May 31 OP

Yawn. This guy's candidacy is a joke. tritsofme May 31 #1

A tech millionaire JustAnotherGen May 31 #3

But ... but ... he's a Green New Millionaire with Green New grassroots money and capitalism is nice now! betsuni May 31 #54

He's JustAnotherGen May 31 #56

We need another tech millionaire JustAnotherGen May 31 #2

"Tech millionaire" is reductive. He's a longtime activist Sympthsical May 31 #10

I don't care JustAnotherGen May 31 #15

I'm tired of that canard. Do you have actual proof that Defund the Police cost elections? Cuthbert Allgood May 31 #17

I'm just saying Sympthsical May 31 #18

I remember back in H2O Man Jun 1 #65

Nancy Pelosi is a tech millionaire madville Jun 1 #93

Her husband's investments as the Founder JustAnotherGen Jun 2 #97

At this point both sides are just arguing over madville Jun 2 #100

I'm not saying Jilly_in_VA May 31 #4

Well there's this ("Nazi sympathizer" allegation) RandomNumbers May 31 #5

Whoa JustAnotherGen May 31 #19

It should be, and he needs to explain it. JohnSJ May 31 #53

Honestly, this seems like dismissing Thomas Jefferson because he owned enslaved people. intheflow May 31 #27

But I DO JustAnotherGen May 31 #55

Bose is a complicated figure fujiyamasan Jun 1 #74

depends on who the candidate is ... stopdiggin May 31 #6

Works the other way, too. Iggo May 31 #16

And that means little because no one is voting for someone just because they're old. W_HAMILTON May 31 #23

Sure there are. Iggo May 31 #26

Again -- no, they aren't. W_HAMILTON May 31 #30

Bernie Sanders is 83. Nixie May 31 #7

Bernie is an absolute exception Jilly_in_VA May 31 #34

This hypocrisy is exactly what I was talking about. It's obviously Nixie May 31 #40

It's not Jilly_in_VA May 31 #41

Right. More hypocrisy. Only a certain few get to determine Nixie May 31 #45

Unfortunately it's been hard not to notice the continued undermining. Nixie Jun 1 #63

Preach! sheshe2 May 31 #48

Hi she! It's amazing they don't realize we've heard all this Nixie May 31 #60

Hi Nixie! sheshe2 Jun 1 #66

What's so ironic about Democrats being accused of inability to change and being old betsuni Jun 1 #67

Yes, you would think they would realize that they have to work Nixie Jun 1 #95

This! mcar May 31 #51

he doesn't get a pass from everyone Skittles May 31 #59

The rigged purity test. Those who pass have been anointed, crowned, chosen already. Hypocrisy. betsuni May 31 #57

Exactly. I've noticed that some recent comments from Nixie Jun 1 #62

Mahalo, Nixie! I won't even read Cha Jun 1 #69

..... 🙌. Hi Cha! Nixie Jun 1 #78

Yesh, except those Cha Jun 1 #85

Comparing Speaker Pelosi to Bernie is a bad joke bottomofthehill Jun 1 #77

This! sheshe2 Jun 1 #81

Thanks again for proving this isn't about age. Nixie Jun 1 #91

Sanders would actually be a good example to find someone new JI7 Jun 1 #87

Exactly. The whole thing about attacking old people is to force Nixie Jun 1 #92

I hope so. We need young, smart, compasionate people like AOC and Jasmine to survive the Autumn May 31 #8

Obviously, Pelosi herself is in no danger of losing her seat - but I wouldn't be surprised if a number of the old guard Midwestern Democrat May 31 #9

Nancy will have the seat as long as she wants. Progressive dog May 31 #11

But should she still want it? Cuthbert Allgood May 31 #20

It will be whenever Christine Pelosi feels like it Sympthsical May 31 #29

Do any of us vote for people who Progressive dog May 31 #31

some people just cannot give up power Skittles Jun 1 #64

No mcar May 31 #12

One could argue things would never have gotten this extreme if the dems had acted like a true opposition party CrispyQ May 31 #13

Look where we are Ponietz May 31 #14

It depends almost entirely on the electorate where they run. MineralMan May 31 #21

Threaten? sheshe2 May 31 #22

Which is what the DNC seems to be doing right now Jilly_in_VA May 31 #33

He is being asked to follow the rules. sheshe2 May 31 #37

What rules? Jilly_in_VA May 31 #42

See post 46, Jilly. sheshe2 Jun 1 #68

Does not answer the question, though Jilly_in_VA Jun 1 #70

Wow. sheshe2 Jun 1 #71

Yeah, when they act like it. Jilly_in_VA Jun 1 #72

Wow indeed: Mocking Democrats for being old, can't fight, weak, spineless, no message, scared of David Hogg, betsuni Jun 1 #73

We wonder why we lose elections.🤔 sheshe2 Jun 1 #80

Exactly. FalloutShelter Jun 1 #84

'making gerontocracy ? rule by the aged ? a big part of his campaign.' elleng May 31 #24

Disregarding and disrespecting who Nancy Pelosi is and what she has done Sogo May 31 #25

What we need right now is to flip red seats to blue. Not replacing seats we already hold GoodRaisin May 31 #28

For all of my voting life Faux pas May 31 #32

The powers that be? sheshe2 May 31 #38

Not necessarily Jilly_in_VA May 31 #43

Welp sheshe2 May 31 #46

Jilly is right. progressoid Jun 1 #79

And David is going to do the exact same thing. sheshe2 Jun 1 #82

I'm not defending Hogg. progressoid Jun 2 #96

They can, and I hope to the cosmos they will. Xavier Breath May 31 #35

Youth, by itself, isn't enough. no_hypocrisy May 31 #36

He has the right message but he is the wrong messenger. LonePirate May 31 #39

This! fujiyamasan Jun 1 #75

Does he have any qualifications Retrograde May 31 #44

This! sheshe2 May 31 #47

Very similar campaign site theme to Harry Jarin's. Quiet Em May 31 #49

I remember feeling the same way when I was a young adult engaging in the act of voting which means learning who our reps msfiddlestix May 31 #50

This is the guy who was wearing a t-shirt bearing the image of a Nazi collaborator a few years back, so JohnSJ May 31 #52

"It's not good enough for someone to say, 'I'm middle-aged, vote for me!' No, that's not good enough." betsuni May 31 #58

I hope so. H2O Man May 31 #61

Pelosi still seems sharp fujiyamasan Jun 1 #76

Saying she wants Rahm to be president Tree Lady Jun 1 #83

Where did she say that? Far as I know, she said he was probably going to run. betsuni Jun 1 #88

Your right I looked it up she was Tree Lady Jun 1 #89

It didn't sound like an endorsement fujiyamasan Jun 1 #94

When the young Democrats turn out to vote in the same percentage as Pelosi's generation elocs Jun 1 #86

Is shs really going to run for reelection at 86? Renew Deal Jun 1 #90

If the policy platforms and positions of a candidate Torchlight Jun 2 #98

I'm kinda done arguing with y'all Jilly_in_VA Jun 2 #99

Democrats... CNYHarris Jun 2 #101

BLAH. Sounds like he already has a job AkFemDem Jun 2 #102

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