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Bernardo de La Paz

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13. Nonsense. Best explanation is the obvious one. Musk thinks BBB is stupid & he's right. tRump is vindictive.

Fri Jun 6, 2025, 01:38 PM

Jun 6

There is no Kabuki. There may be a truce, but there will be no "kiss and make up".

It is not a play to increase Muck's stock TSLA by making progressives suddenly like Muck and rush to buy Teslas. Not going to happen and TSLA is down big because of the spat and that is on the heels of a downtrend due to concerns about sales.

It is not a play to distract. tRump has lots of levers for distraction, including a sheaf of Executive Orders being held in abeyance till needed for distractions.

The Big Billionaire Bill is stupid: It is stimulative when not needed and at immense fiscal and social cost. It takes from the poor and middle class whose spending runs the economy and gives to billionaires who have a habit of parking a lot of any windfalls and not investing all of it in production. There is lots there for Muck to dislike. He is not altruistic, but he is smart.

tRump was wounded by the Epstein link, which may pan out or remain hidden, but the claim deepens belief that the smoke indicated a fire. He is vindictive and will not forget.

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I've certainly been wrong before, but I think this apparent feud between Musk and Trump is a huge pile of bullshit. [View all] LuckyCharms Jun 6 OP

Sheer manipulation no_hypocrisy Jun 6 #1

I think a real Musk attack would be about his dementia. Girard442 Jun 6 #29

Agreed!!! niyad Jun 6 #2

Agree. Musk may have been a liability but he was coming up on the end of his 6 month travelingthrulife Jun 6 #3

Planned exit but not an exit. He's still there. Blue Full Moon Jun 6 #16

It started exactly when the rescission package was sent to Congress oregonjen Jun 6 #4

I agree ismnotwasm Jun 6 #5

Could very well be. GoodRaisin Jun 6 #6

WWE wrestling. First thing I thought of. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jun 6 #7

They should bring in the DENVERPOPS Jun 6 #12

nah, it's real obamanut2012 Jun 6 #8

I am inclined to agree, by Musk dissing the Bigbeatufilbill it makes it harder for Senators to vote against it Shellback Squid Jun 6 #9

Hard to say. Music Man Jun 6 #10

Whyyyyyyy EarlG Jun 6 #11

K&R. Agree with everything you said there. And I'd add that Musk publicly agreeing with his fanboi who said highplainsdem Jun 6 #15

LOL at Ivanka or Jr as VP. Too many dumb voters in the US, but anchor babies for VP? Attilatheblond Jun 6 #18

They both have been looking like fucking idiots since all of this started. LuckyCharms Jun 6 #28

It's not out of the realm of possibility EarlG Jun 6 #40

That's a good question that I do not know the answer to... LuckyCharms Jun 6 #42

Precisely. Two narcissists. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 6 #37

Nonsense. Best explanation is the obvious one. Musk thinks BBB is stupid & he's right. tRump is vindictive. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 6 #13

This is probably plan 'B' Nigrum Cattus Jun 6 #14

I think it's real. Two massively malignant narcissists can't coexist for long. chia Jun 6 #17

Unless they both have the same goal in actuality. LuckyCharms Jun 6 #23

One more hot take credulous bullshit conspiracy theory -- why not? Ponietz Jun 6 #19

Do you disagree with people in your real life LuckyCharms Jun 6 #20

Are you always so sensitive Mysterian Jun 6 #33

There's ways of disagreeing politely. LuckyCharms Jun 6 #35

William of Ockham is turning over in his grave. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 6 #38

Lucky of Charms is still above ground! LuckyCharms Jun 6 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 6 #39

Why so scoldy? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 6 #21

Its the media that I'm scolding, not DU. LuckyCharms Jun 6 #22

I'M WITH TABITHA CatWoman Jun 6 #24

Tabitha seems to be ignoring that Trump LuckyCharms Jun 6 #25

I agree with the OP. Boomerproud Jun 6 #26

Nah. BannonsLiver Jun 6 #27

Yup, yup, and double yup. a kennedy Jun 6 #30

Folks would be better served by using Occam's Razor as a default mechanism. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 6 #31

Spending hundreds of millions of dollars to get Trump elected... LuckyCharms Jun 6 #32

You are free to rely on any problem solving mechanism you want and I'll rely on William of Ockham. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 6 #36

Of course. I have a theory that I believe is plausible. LuckyCharms Jun 6 #43

Project 2025 wasn't Elon Musk's thing. His purpose was his personal enrichment JI7 Jun 7 #48

I'll believe it when one of them is shot on fifth avenue. Maru Kitteh Jun 6 #34

They would not have used Musk to attack their own legislative agenda, Jack Valentino Jun 6 #45

It IS somewhat of a distraction, BUT--- Jack Valentino Jun 6 #44

Thought has passed my mind. Then i discounted it. applegrove Jun 7 #46

Amazing thing about these guys: the feud could be simultaneously 100% sincere and also complete setup bullshit 0rganism Jun 7 #47

Never attribute to malice what could just as easily be attributed to... LostOne4Ever Jun 7 #49