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In reply to the discussion: Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County [View all]Wiz Imp
(5,385 posts)158. I hate to break it to you, but by your logic, Obama cheated to win both elections in 2008 and 2012
https://www.ajc.com/blog/jamie-dupree/zero-votes-precinct-for-presidential-candidate-happens-and-experts-say-not-voter-fraud/UBtQcSBfew00GpmtrhvzwN/
Zero votes in a precinct for a presidential candidate: It happens, and experts say it's not voter fraud
There's many more examples in the article.
Zero votes in a precinct for a presidential candidate: It happens, and experts say it's not voter fraud
After the 2012 election results were final, some claimed that fraud was the only way to explain voting numbers in Philadelphia which showed Mitt Romney getting no votes at all in dozens of precincts in that city. But a review of election returns from all over the country shows that while such a result is rare, it happens more than you might think, and will probably happen again on November 8.
Romney received zero votes in six precincts located in Fulton County, Georgia, which is home to much of the city of Atlanta. The largest spread was 327-0 for Obama in precinct CP083, on the southeast side of College Park, Georgia, an area that is over 80 percent African American, not far from downtown Atlanta. There were seven other precincts in that same county where Romney received only a single vote; in one precinct, Obama ran up an 898-1 advantage.
In 2012 in Pennsylvania, it wasn't just Philadelphia that had precincts give no votes to Romney, as it also happened in Pittsburgh, and two suburban precincts outside of Philadelphia. That pattern was repeated in cities like Detroit, where there were 31 precincts that went to Obama in which Romney did not get a single vote, with many of those precincts delivering well over 400 votes each to Obama - another big city area with a high concentration of black supporters and few Republicans.
What I found were hundreds of precincts around the nation where Romney didn't get a single vote, and many precincts where President Obama was shutout as well.
Political science professor Jonathan Rodden of Stanford University ran the numbers for the 2008 election, and found hundreds of precincts where John McCain received no votes - and some that gave no votes to Obama as well. "If we limit ourselves to precincts in which at least 10 votes were cast, there are almost 180,000" in the U.S., Rodden told me. "Of these, 477 gave every single vote to Obama, and 52 gave every single vote to McCain."
Romney received zero votes in six precincts located in Fulton County, Georgia, which is home to much of the city of Atlanta. The largest spread was 327-0 for Obama in precinct CP083, on the southeast side of College Park, Georgia, an area that is over 80 percent African American, not far from downtown Atlanta. There were seven other precincts in that same county where Romney received only a single vote; in one precinct, Obama ran up an 898-1 advantage.
In 2012 in Pennsylvania, it wasn't just Philadelphia that had precincts give no votes to Romney, as it also happened in Pittsburgh, and two suburban precincts outside of Philadelphia. That pattern was repeated in cities like Detroit, where there were 31 precincts that went to Obama in which Romney did not get a single vote, with many of those precincts delivering well over 400 votes each to Obama - another big city area with a high concentration of black supporters and few Republicans.
What I found were hundreds of precincts around the nation where Romney didn't get a single vote, and many precincts where President Obama was shutout as well.
Political science professor Jonathan Rodden of Stanford University ran the numbers for the 2008 election, and found hundreds of precincts where John McCain received no votes - and some that gave no votes to Obama as well. "If we limit ourselves to precincts in which at least 10 votes were cast, there are almost 180,000" in the U.S., Rodden told me. "Of these, 477 gave every single vote to Obama, and 52 gave every single vote to McCain."
There's many more examples in the article.
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"Zero votes in a precinct for a presidential candidate: It happens, and experts say it's not voter fraud" - AJC
TheProle
Wednesday
#100
Dumpy and looney both admitted they cheated numerous times out loud and in public!
Clouds Passing
Thursday
#186
Let me make sure I understand you. Are you saying trump won all the swing states fair and square?
brush
Yesterday
#211
It is an unfortunate reality. I certainly don't believe in delusional Trump-style conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Yesterday
#213
Someone needs to explain to me how hundreds of people voted for Gillibrand
Wingus Dingus
Wednesday
#2
"when my gut tells me something I look to see if there's anything that might support it."
TheProle
Thursday
#199
Because it was nutty when republicans believed the same thing four years earlier and it's still nutty today
FBaggins
Thursday
#203
I asked that question here on DU about some counties in the swing states in late November
yobrault1
Wednesday
#47
In 2020, same precinct was 528 trump to 0 Biden. Guess that was hacked too.
Silent Type
Wednesday
#48
Absolutely rigged too. Only a moron would believe there was no rigging/money changing hands.
brush
Wednesday
#60
Whatever that means. Let's try idiot. Idiots will believe that trump won the election.
brush
Wednesday
#67
Hope we don't run on that conspiracy theory in midterms. I'd like a chance at House.
Silent Type
Wednesday
#73
You are right, why didn't Harris, Biden, anyone, protest? Gotta admit, it was tough for me to accept we lost to
Silent Type
Wednesday
#160
You should make this a separate post. Maybe more people would see it. I'm glad you shared it.
LauraInLA
Wednesday
#119
Yeah, that makes no sense at all.... Not that such an anomaly makes any difference in New York
Jack Valentino
Wednesday
#164
Whichever of Musk's whiz kids was assigned that district got a little overzealous. nt
Buns_of_Fire
Wednesday
#4
Wonder just how much fraud really happened in these last elections. Zero votes for Kamala? That's as
SWBTATTReg
Wednesday
#5
I agree the zero is impossible but the same machine that produced the zero produced the other results
questionseverything
Wednesday
#37
Statistics are about averages, not specifics, and this specific case is different
Random Boomer
Wednesday
#129
I'm reading on Politifact that it was a Hasidic Jewish district and that they
Wingus Dingus
Wednesday
#8
The candidate who instigated the probe says she has affidavits from people who voted in the district
Prairie Gates
Wednesday
#12
It's not entirely Hasidic. It's right over the Tappan Zee bridge. There are Hasidic pockets around Pomona, but
Scrivener7
Wednesday
#15
They're not talking about all of Rockland county. Just one district, which had 554 total voters.
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#110
See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt)
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#111
you've got your work cut out for you but thank you for re-iterating this (nt)
cadoman
Wednesday
#150
Rockland County is roughly 31.4% Jewish, and they are NOT all Hasidic, although the Hasidic community is significant!
markpkessinger
Wednesday
#78
I think the confusion lies in the fact that Harris DID get votes in that county as a whole, but
Wingus Dingus
Wednesday
#82
See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt)
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#116
Some of the wards that voted heavily or almost unanimously for Trump also voted heavily for Gillibrand's opponent.
onenote
Wednesday
#104
It's coming up now because a local candidate for a small local office in the district disputed
Prairie Gates
Wednesday
#9
The OP is deceptive: it's not Rockland County as a whole, but one voting district in Rockland County
Prairie Gates
Wednesday
#44
No Harris votes in Rockland County definitely points to cheating. But what an odd County to choose. It wouldn't
Scrivener7
Wednesday
#17
For a narcissist, it would be as important to win the popular vote as the electoral vote.
Pacifist Patriot
Wednesday
#20
Even more unlikely. District 17 encompasses all of Rockland county, all of Putnam county, some of Westchester
Scrivener7
Wednesday
#64
The district in question isn't Congressional 'district 17' -- its Rockland County district of Ramapo
onenote
Wednesday
#99
The zero votes was in one small district, 554 total voters. See post #110. (n/t)
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#117
She didn't get zero votes in the county. She got zero votes in some wards within the county
onenote
Wednesday
#55
See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt)
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#115
2024 Presidential and Senate Results Called Into Question as Lawsuit Advances 121 million views for our Rockland County
littlemissmartypants
Wednesday
#23
Where are they getting the "zero votes" info? Very misleading headline!
Pacifist Patriot
Wednesday
#25
In Rampo precinct 35, Biden lost 528 trump to 0 Biden in 2020. Guess that was hacked too.
Silent Type
Wednesday
#58
If it's a "conspiracy " to believe the American people have the right to oversee their own elections?
questionseverything
Wednesday
#81
We lost. We need to come to grips with that to move forward and win against, rather than sounding
Silent Type
Wednesday
#85
Or I could listen to Obama who said, " we have to beat them so bad there is no doubt "
questionseverything
Wednesday
#89
Zero votes was within one small district within the county, with 554 total voters. (nt)
thesquanderer
Wednesday
#113
I think she received votes in the county, but in a district within that county (smaller unit)
Wingus Dingus
Wednesday
#28
You are looking at the county results while the article talks about a district
questionseverything
Wednesday
#61
And the headline says zero votes in a New York County not in a part of a New York County.
onenote
Wednesday
#71
If an article claimed to be written by journalists starts off with such a blatant lie
MichMan
Wednesday
#93
Voting ain't a survey. Conspiracy theories, refusal to accept defeat, and, worse won't win elections.
Silent Type
Wednesday
#122
I hate to break it to you, but by your logic, Obama cheated to win both elections in 2008 and 2012
Wiz Imp
Wednesday
#158
Well, well, well. Who is really surprised? Hope this can of worms gets ripped wide open.
Joinfortmill
Wednesday
#36
It's actually the exact same thing, with the exact same silly conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Thursday
#200
You are leaving out the New York Supreme Court ordered the hand count
questionseverything
Wednesday
#156
You are basing that on a sentence in the Latin Times article that is simply wrong.
onenote
16 hrs ago
#218
My original reply was that evidence has been given which is still correct
questionseverything
16 hrs ago
#219
Does anybody remember how the orange twerp said that he had a little....
Butterflylady
Wednesday
#79
Wouldn't this trigger a lawsuit, perhaps a class action, by registered democratic voters
no_hypocrisy
Wednesday
#105
Let's just say four of eLoon's engineers popped up and said, "we are part of the team that stole the 2024 election
flashman13
Wednesday
#108
America is under siege. And it blows my mind that election officials haven't audited the results on their own
ffr
Wednesday
#132
One could ask voters there if they would like to declare they voted for Harris. Sure to get more than, say, 7. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Thursday
#171