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24. I am sure you are wrong on this, UP.

Sun Jun 15, 2025, 03:24 PM

Jun 15

I grew up in the military.
Career USAF father who flew combat in three wars.
Mother a military nurse during the Korean War.
Two brothers in US Army.
Uncles in Army and Navy.

I remember as a kid, reading some bad news in the Stars and Stripes,
the military newspaper. About how politicians were going to screw over
the USAF in some way. I went to my mother and voiced my worry.

She just laughed and said not to worry.

She said US military has been fighting jackass politicians for 200 years.
They just wait out the politicians, yank them around, and stall for time.
Soon the politician will be out of office and all will go back to normal.
And she was right, that is what happened.

And based on what I saw of the parade, that is exactly what I saw once again.
Even Air Force high school ROTC could put on a better parade.

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Did the Army outsmart Trump and play him like a fiddle? [View all] Irish_Dem Jun 15 OP

No. The army went along with him but like everything Trump does Autumn Jun 15 #1

Half assed yes. The look of the event wasn't an accident. I agree with Irish_Dem. flashman13 Jun 15 #34

And they didn't have the jet flyovers to provide a soundtrack Walleye Jun 15 #2

Funny how that worked out, Army said the jets could not do a flyover in the rain. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #6

Right, any cool maneuvers jets might have done would be obstructed from the ground. forgotmylogin Jun 15 #48

Jets can fly with a low ceiling. They do a different show. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #55

They can fly in the rain or cloud cover LogDog75 Jun 15 #84

Not one pilot would do a five minute low altitude fly over for the CIC? Irish_Dem Jun 15 #86

I just added the jet flyover issue to the main OP. Thanks I forgot about that piece Walleye. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #7

Yes, those jets can have earsplitting thundering Walleye Jun 15 #8

I grew up in Tampa in the 60's/70's to mid80's, the home of MacDill AFB ms liberty Jun 15 #122

Yes the hotshot young USAF pilots like to buzz the tree tops and telephone wires. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #184

I agree. Marching to Fortunate Son was an awesome burn if the military chose the music. travelingthrulife Jun 15 #3

No way can anyone march to contemporary music. Crowman2009 Jun 15 #21

Proud Mary has a pretty good cadence. bluedigger Jun 16 #164

What? Wait?! Susan Calvin Jun 15 #43

I saw it ... but cannot figure from where UpInArms Jun 15 #45

Nevermind. Susan Calvin Jun 15 #46

thanks barbtries Jun 16 #173

Replying again with the link UpInArms Jun 15 #47

They're not marching, they're walking in formation. forgotmylogin Jun 15 #50

I was aware of the "route march" order UpInArms Jun 15 #52

John Philip Souza might disagree SilasSouleII Jun 15 #100

Has he had a hit recently? forgotmylogin Jun 15 #124

Well, he died in 1932, so no, nothing recently SilasSouleII Jun 15 #129

No royalties for Sousa. Old Crank Jun 15 #134

Wow, I had no idea that was Going Cha Jun 15 #63

Here ya go Karch Jun 15 #69

Like a hostage video! cilla4progress Jun 16 #176

Yup, here are the lyrics that say it all Farmer-Rick Jun 16 #178

This is a song about rich people avoiding military service while the poor get killed. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #79

So, how long before Der Fury has them put in front of a firing squad? mucholderthandirt Jun 15 #4

Will be interesting to see if Trump fires someone. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #9

How long before his heart gives up on him? Crowman2009 Jun 15 #22

Heart? C Moon Jun 15 #60

While the ketchup does the fly over. luvallpeeps Jun 15 #132

She looked like the only one there enjoying himself or herself! colorado_ufo Jun 16 #142

Excellent observation, Irish. lamp_shade Jun 15 #5

Soldiers can be mightily pissed off and still march in step and look sharp. RandomNumbers Jun 15 #10

Exactly they have been ordered to do it that way. So no consequences. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #13

They would only do it if ordered to do it that way. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #12

My Girl Scout troop marched better than that Alice Kramden Jun 15 #105

Yes and our Brownie uniforms looked better than these rumpled fatigues the Army wore Irish_Dem Jun 16 #146

Frist recruits know how to march Lifeafter70 Jun 15 #111

They DID put recruits in the parade! jmowreader Jun 15 #125

I am willing to bet many of them had to give up their leave mercuryblues Jun 15 #20

"Dicktraitor" has been added to my very long, hilarious list of T💩p monikers. Thanks for your contribution! OMGWTF Jun 15 #36

The entire Army was pissed off from basic recruit to top generals. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #147

To me it was as if they wanted to get out of there ASAP. efhmc Jun 15 #119

I saw clips of the marching Raven123 Jun 15 #11

Troops are taught to be highly disciplined in their job tasks. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #14

Maybe they weren't in front of the CIC Raven123 Jun 15 #23

The Army is usually more disciplined than this. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #25

"When on parade day, the tanks looked weak and ridiculous?" J_William_Ryan Jun 15 #15

Lame ridiculous charade is what it looked like to me. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #16

Former Air Force MissouriDem47 Jun 15 #73

USAF personnel are the smartest, nicest, most clever of all branches. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #76

Shhhh! Don't give it all away!! OldBaldy1701E Jun 15 #99

But have no sense of humor Gimpyknee Jun 15 #103

USAF doesn't have the greatest uniforms. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #109

Talk about Bus Driver uniforms... William Gustafson Jun 16 #136

My sister worked at a Navel Air Station. Doc_Technical Jun 16 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Gimpyknee Jun 15 #104

Can you march on golf courses? SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 16 #156

I think I saw swong19104 Jun 15 #26

More recent vehicles kwijybo Jun 16 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author underpants Jun 15 #17

I am sure you are wrong on this, UP. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #24

Okay. I think we're both right. underpants Jun 15 #37

That was a route step march LogDog75 Jun 15 #93

No matter what they did or why slightlv Jun 15 #94

Funny story about marching LogDog75 Jun 15 #98

Good one, Logdog! nt slightlv Jun 15 #110

hey Skittles Jun 15 #114

Sad situation when the USAF dresses better and is more snappy than the USArmy. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #151

East Germany collapsed in 1990, and the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. DFW Jun 16 #135

This is why the old guard and the us army band are the ones doing ceremonial marching the vast majority of the time. Crowman2009 Jun 15 #18

Nah, they "just followed orders" as expected. It happened that their orders were RockRaven Jun 15 #19

Soldiers don't march in sync over long distances. pfitz59 Jun 15 #27

Why didn't we see any video of really sharp parade march, with dress uniforms? Irish_Dem Jun 15 #28

"Fortunate Son"? Holy Cow! Really? calimary Jun 16 #141

We think like each other I_D DENVERPOPS Jun 15 #29

I saw the picture of Heg looking totally plastered, drunk and high on cocaine. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #61

It was a spectacle of malicious compliance Prairie Gates Jun 15 #30

K&R red dog 1 Jun 15 #31

I think the person put in charge of the event was a 22 year old incompetent and recent intern. yellow dahlia Jun 15 #32

Actually I think it was a highly skilled and clever field grade officer and NCO. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #58

SNAFU yellow dahlia Jun 15 #102

Look what I just found on DU. yellow dahlia Jun 15 #106

Oh, noesky! "Jackwad"! bucolic_frolic Jun 15 #33

I live next to Whiteman AFB xmas74 Jun 15 #35

My USAF dad flew combat in three wars. Sometimes it was raining. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #57

Exactly. xmas74 Jun 15 #67

I bet Trump ordered the Stealth, but the day of the parade, the pilot said he couldn't fly in rain. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #70

I know a few of those pilots. xmas74 Jun 15 #71

If there is horrific weather they won't fly. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #75

And there was FORTUNATE SON in the Soundtrack BOSSHOG Jun 15 #38

A big slap in orange f-wad's face. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #144

Instrumental version of Fortunate Son played during the parade Mysterian Jun 15 #39

In the clips that I have seen, I was struck by how boring and pedantic the narrative was -- fierywoman Jun 15 #40

The troops may not have had their hearts into this stunt LetMyPeopleVote Jun 15 #41

Out for a walk. Historic NY Jun 15 #51

Kegsbreath better like the taste of ketchup C_U_L8R Jun 15 #42

I think Heg knew that. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #91

Speaking of cocaine where was Don Jr during the parade? Irish_Dem Jun 15 #92

He's lucky they didn't Anwar Sadat his ass Submariner Jun 15 #44

Yep, it was a thing of beauty wasn't it? Irish_Dem Jun 15 #56

Exactly!! MorbidButterflyTat Jun 15 #95

Trump forgot the WD-40 he was very squeaky. Historic NY Jun 15 #49

I don't know what that means MorbidButterflyTat Jun 15 #96

No doubt in my mind - don't ever underestimate the cleverness of a GI. Or any enlisted man who's peeved. marble falls Jun 15 #53

Same goes with officers, especially generals who have been humiliated. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #54

I've seen Boy Scouts with more snap and precision. Grammy23 Jun 15 #59

When I was a first grader at a Catholic school we marched better to mass every morning. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #62

Did you get demerits if they weren't? I sure did! BattleRow Jun 15 #64

We didn't have a demerit system back them. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #66

From 3rd to 9th in Catholic school DV1 Jun 15 #81

Right march to recess, march to lunch, march to the buses to go home. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #82

You vill obey und you vill like it..sometimes in an Irish brogue. BattleRow Jun 15 #97

I was shocked they were all in their fatigues. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #87

In the interest of Truth Justice and the American way J3AC4 Jun 15 #65

It is called straggling I am told. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #68

Here is an article about the bad marching with video: Irish_Dem Jun 15 #72

I'm pretty sure that the Army doesn't have any jets Klondike Kat Jun 15 #74

Yes the Army does have fixed wing aircraft. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #77

To be fair on the jets, I think lightening, not rain, was the concern. pat_k Jun 15 #78

Even if I give him the flyover, the rest of the parade was crap. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #80

There were quite a few helicopters, both Vietnam era and modern. sl8 Jun 15 #112

There were flyovers of ALL these planes? Irish_Dem Jun 15 #120

Those are the ones I've seen video reports of, yes. sl8 Jun 15 #121

Various news reports during the day. Flyovers were cancelled due to weather. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #123

This was Trump, so we had every right to expect aircraft from the 1770s DFW Jun 16 #137

LOL, good point. nt sl8 Jun 16 #154

Trump had a hissy fit, so they threw some damn planes in the air for the toddler. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #145

But it was the AIr Force planes that Trump specifically requested that ended up not participating. sl8 Jun 16 #152

USAF also being passive aggressive? Saying yes then refusing to fly. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #157

I don't know who made that decision, or why. sl8 Jun 16 #158

I have watched the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels do low ceiling air shows. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #159

Agreed! pat_k Jun 15 #115

In the Navy, we had the F18 maxrandb Jun 15 #83

In this case, Army pilots may be pissed that Hegseth sent Navy pilots into a possible ambush. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #85

F18 is a $73 million dollar aircraft. Pilots are going to be very careful. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #90

I think MorbidButterflyTat Jun 15 #88

Exactly. Was not the toughest mission the Army has ever faced. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #89

That's why they call YUGE intellects like Trump "birdbrains"! Otterdaemmerung Jun 16 #139

The army band also-- viva la Jun 15 #101

OMG I didn't see/hear that. And the Army has a great band. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #118

The Ohio State Marching Band would have been a hellava lot better. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #155

Beat him like a Drumpf! Kid Berwyn Jun 15 #107

They don't look this sad at state funerals. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #117

I am really proud of myself. llmart Jun 15 #128

K&R spanone Jun 15 #108

playing "Fortunate Son" Skittles Jun 15 #113

It's a huge FU. A song about rich kids getting out of the draft, and poor kids sent to be killed. Irish_Dem Jun 15 #116

I have thoughts on the fiasco. First ms liberty Jun 15 #126

But the Army knows how to put on a parade, a good one. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #153

Hegseth is Trump's servant, why didnt he arrange something more spectacular Demovictory9 Jun 15 #127

Because when you fuck over the Army they will fuck you back. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #143

Drump blasted the weather forecasters saying they all said Tribetime Jun 15 #130

They sure did play him, no way they would look bad if not on purpose. MaeScott Jun 15 #131

Whatever the case may be, luvallpeeps Jun 15 #133

Yes. Trump used the military as his dancing bears. The bears refused to dance. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #149

"The Worst Military Parade I've Ever Seen" summer_in_TX Jun 16 #138

The US military does their jobs even when they are tired, hungry, and demoralized. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #148

This gives me tremendous hope! summer_in_TX Jun 16 #188

The message could not be more clear. You Eff with the Army, the Army will Eff with you. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #189

Found this on substack luvallpeeps Jun 16 #150

Occam's razor... Hugin Jun 16 #160

Yes it is obvious. USArmy ticked every box at least twice. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #161

All this whining about the Air Force's no show at the Army's big event... bluedigger Jun 16 #162

The Space Force could have at least flown the USS Enterprise over the reviewing stand. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #163

I hear it squeaks in atmosphere. bluedigger Jun 16 #166

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This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Jun 16 #169

I have since seen that. I'm going to delete. JohnnyRingo Jun 16 #170

I missed the Latin Band Ensemble, thanks. sl8 Jun 16 #171

How do you make a tank look weak? ECL213 Jun 16 #167

They were squeaking along, one by one, looking weak and small. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #186

This was the only unit that didn't get featured in any of the video clips from Saturday: DFW Jun 16 #168

Totally brilliant. Now this would have been a show to remember. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #182

I'm an Army brat. I've seen military parades on bases for Independence Day and Flag Day. Pacifist Patriot Jun 16 #174

Of course they could have looked sharp. They didn't want to. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #181

As a former Marine, I only watched a few seconds of the so-called marching. Crowman2009 Jun 16 #175

I can imagine some NCO's would be cussing up a storm watching the shit marching display on Saturday. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #180

Dont know if this was mentioned johnnyfins Jun 16 #177

Someone else mentioned the cramped space hampering the parade optics. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #179

Exactly. We don't have that here. johnnyfins Jun 16 #183

Yes, exactly. They are not dancing bears for the dictator, so he can show off and preen. Irish_Dem Jun 16 #185

I noticed the out of sync marching as well Owens Jun 16 #187

I looked upon the sloppy marching as a bonus. Paladin Jun 17 #192

The squeaky tanks were a great touch LetMyPeopleVote Jun 17 #190

And then soldiers on top of the tanks laughing, waving, smiling. Irish_Dem Jun 17 #191