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50. I for one am horrified at

Wed Jun 18, 2025, 04:59 PM

Jun 18

Israel's genocide in Gaza; and Israel's preemptive strike on Iran is just as horrifying. I am outraged and ashamed that the US has not condemned these excesses, let alone cut off its support for them.

Turns out it was Obama that was the great negotiator. Trump's "art of the deal" boils down to bragging, bullying, and broken promises.

At a time when the world was already coming to see the US as its most dangerous nation, Trump's managed in the space of a few months to vaporize the last shreds of our credibility.

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AIPAC Demands Democrats 'Stand With Israel' [View all] Celerity Jun 18 OP

Not only NO atreides1 Jun 18 #1

It isn't just Dems. Some Republicans are also Bluetus Jun 18 #70

That is excellent news! Solidarity with the Jewish state! tritsofme Jun 18 #2

Not if it drags us into a war with Iran. CentralMass Jun 18 #18

No rational person would desire "solidarity" with the criminal bibi PSPS Jun 18 #76

I'm happy to stand with Jewish people but not necessarily the Netanyahu regime biophile Jun 18 #3

Amen to this. ShazzieB Jun 18 #44

This ⬆️⬆️⬆️ yliza Jun 18 #87

Thank you! ShazzieB Jun 19 #103

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American Jews should be treated like foreign agents? tritsofme Jun 18 #14

What Goddessartist Jun 18 #19

AIPAC is made of up American Jews, not foreigners. Why should American citizens have to register as foreign agents? tritsofme Jun 18 #20

AIPAC Goddessartist Jun 18 #21

American citizens are allowed to have opinions on how America conducts foreign policy tritsofme Jun 18 #24

Read up Goddessartist Jun 18 #26

Why would I ever waste my time reading such a trash website? tritsofme Jun 18 #27

Did Michael Flynn lobby on behalf of a foreign government? Ponietz Jun 18 #49

They were both prosecuted for crimes they committed. Not seeing any relevance. tritsofme Jun 18 #51

Just trying to understand, myself -- but Flynn and Menendez are also citizens Ponietz Jun 18 #52

Just for clarification Mossfern Jun 18 #47

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I know! Mossfern Jun 18 #59

Be honest adam_vermont Jun 18 #25

That paragraph is full of more lies than I can count. tritsofme Jun 18 #28

Then specify those lies iemanja Jun 18 #55

AIPAC is privately funded by American citizens. tritsofme Jun 18 #60

How? iemanja Jun 18 #61

How what? tritsofme Jun 18 #62

The Jewish publication Forward identifies it as a Pro-Israel lobby iemanja Jun 18 #63

I'm not sure what you are arguing at this point. tritsofme Jun 18 #66

Do you deny it promotes Israel's interests? iemanja Jun 18 #67

That would be incredibly dumb, where have I ever denied that? tritsofme Jun 18 #69

Of course iemanja Jun 18 #71

That's nice, I guess? I don't recall anyone arguing to the contrary. tritsofme Jun 18 #73

Excuse me iemanja Jun 18 #79

So you are affirming that "absolutely zero money comes from Israel"? AloeVera Jun 18 #86

Here is the complete list of donors to AIPAC for last year Beastly Boy Jun 18 #89

Last year 63% of AIPAC donations to federal candidates went to the GOP. PufPuf23 Jun 19 #92

None of it came from Israel Beastly Boy Jun 19 #93

Through AIPAC, GOP Donors affect Democratic primaries. thought crime Jun 19 #102

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Was Joe Biden "bought"? He is the largest recipient of AIPAC funds ever. tritsofme Jun 18 #39

Are we assuming Jewish money is behind everything? sarisataka Jun 18 #33

Waiting for the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to be quoted at this point. tritsofme Jun 18 #35

This is AIPAC iemanja Jun 18 #54

I asked a question, the poster could come back and further explain themselves sarisataka Jun 18 #80

Contrary to your prior claims iemanja Jun 18 #81

Incorrect sarisataka Jun 18 #83

Yes, wondering why groups like Abandon Biden don't get such criticism. betsuni Jun 19 #94

No thank you. I stand with what's best for my country and the world. dem4decades Jun 18 #5

Just say no to the Greater Israel Project. Dawson Leery Jun 18 #6

This is about submission iemanja Jun 18 #7

Ah yes, AIPAC Bettie Jun 18 #8

The forgotten scandal H2O Man Jun 18 #15

"everybody wants to take bagdad, real men want tehran" unnamed source (ny times) rampartd Jun 18 #22

I suspect that H2O Man Jun 18 #32

there was also some weird plan to return old king zahir to afghanistan rampartd Jun 18 #41

Free the Democratic Party! AloeVera Jun 18 #9

Stand with Israel? For the most part, but not if it means war with Iran... Wounded Bear Jun 18 #10

No LuvLoogie Jun 18 #11

Nope. OrlandoDem2 Jun 18 #12

Democrats should demand that AIPAC not stand with Netanyahu. kentuck Jun 18 #13

Maybe when they try demanding 'Republicans stand up for AMERICANS--ALL AMERICANS,' then they'd have a leg to stand on... hlthe2b Jun 18 #16

No thanks. I don't "stand with" any nation that condones war crimes and/or protects war criminals. Ping Tung Jun 18 #17

Shameful. Passages Jun 18 #23

A group made up of American jews demonized. Shocking. nt LexVegas Jun 18 #30

The old tropes have already appeared nt sarisataka Jun 18 #34

Foreigners! Unamerican! nt LexVegas Jun 18 #36

Disagreeing is not demonizing. Scrivener7 Jun 18 #38

Disagreeing is antisemitic iemanja Jun 18 #65

Apparently. Scrivener7 Jun 18 #68

Yeah, it is pretty awful that AIPAC demonizes J Street muriel_volestrangler Jun 18 #46

AIPAC stands behind James Comer, Josh Hawley, Ronnie Jackson, Jim Jordan, Rick Scott, and Elise Stefanik Ponietz Jun 18 #31

No. And I understand that will make the usual suspects call me antisemitic, which I'm not. But no. Scrivener7 Jun 18 #37

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, Ping Tung Jun 18 #40

My personal opinion of Israel is, it played a big role in Trump's re-election. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 18 #42

Get fucked, AIPAC. aocommunalpunch Jun 18 #43

Fuck AIPAC and their propaganda machine nt Rob H. Jun 18 #45

War mongerers and genocide defenders. Blood on their hands. AloeVera Jun 18 #85

There is a difference between standing with Israel SocialDemocrat61 Jun 18 #48

I for one am horrified at snot Jun 18 #50

Wag the dog stillcool Jun 18 #53

The supporters of Trump's foreign policy iemanja Jun 18 #56

I believe Israel has a right to exist and to prosper Intractable Jun 18 #58

Hell no. nt jrthin Jun 18 #64

AIPAC is too demanding and too invasive in our political system. Nanjeanne Jun 18 #72

Not just no, but hell fucking NO! -eom vanessa_ca Jun 18 #74

Can you imagine TacosUberAlles Jun 18 #75

Does AIPAC stand with Democrats and Democracy? C_U_L8R Jun 18 #77

Whoa, however much warmonger Netanyahu expands the war, Dems must back him? brush Jun 18 #78

Fetterman is all for it. durablend Jun 18 #82

I stand with Israel in general, Not Netantahu. If AIPAC is supporting RW Repuglicans screw them, too, in this matter! electric_blue68 Jun 18 #88

Best to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool, than open it and prove it. Hotler Jun 18 #90

Fuck AIPAC David__77 Jun 19 #91

Max demands AIPAC stand with Democracy and against fascism maxrandb Jun 19 #95

Stand with Israel and adopt their healthcare system, right? Is that what they mean? ck4829 Jun 19 #96

I tend to agree with the CATO Institute on this one - walkingman Jun 19 #97

Dems don't need to be seen as the "pro Iran getting the bomb party" gulliver Jun 19 #98

How about nobody gets the bomb? And every country with nuclear power should submit to IAEA inspectors? ck4829 Jun 19 #99

I can stand with Israel without standing with BB uponit7771 Jun 19 #100

Ex-Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz trusts in Trump Beringia Jun 19 #101