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In reply to the discussion: She Won -- article on rigged 2024 election, with remedy actions [View all]Celerity
(50,969 posts)92. Using Conspiracy Theories to Make Sense of a Loss

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/articles/using-conspiracy-theories-to-make-sense-of-a-loss

Further reading:
Election Conspiracy Theories Are for Everyone, by Anna Merlan
The 200-Year History of Using Voter Fraud Fears to Block Access to the Ballot, by Pema Levy

Election Denial Conspiracy Theories Are Exploding on X. This Time Theyre Coming From the Left
Conspiracy theories about missing voteswhich are not, in fact, missingand something being not right are being spread widely on X in the wake of Donald Trumps election victory.
https://www.wired.com/story/election-denial-conspiracy-theories-x-left-blueanon/
https://archive.ph/p1DEg
It took just minutes for the conspiracy theories about the 2024 US presidential election to flood Elon Musks X platform after Donald Trump was announced as the winner in the early hours of Wednesday morning. The number of posts casting doubt on the election results and calling for a recount exploded on Wednesday morning, according to data from research company PeakMetrics. At noon Eastern time, posts on centibillionaire Elon Musks X platform peaked at 94,000 posts per hour. Many of the posts received significant amplification on X, with numerous posts reviewed by WIRED receiving more than 1 million views. How can we have had record turnout and twenty million fewer votes cast nationally? author John Pavlovitz wrote in a post viewed 5.3 million times.
Gordon Crovitz, the CEO of NewsGuard, told WIRED that the term Trump cheated was trending on X on Wednesday morning. There are 92,100 mentions of Trump cheated on X since midnight, Crovitz said. The exact details of the conspiracy theories are still being ironed out by those promoting them, but for the Harris supporters sharing them, her loss was reason enough to indulge in pushing baseless disinformation about the election being stolen. Meanwhile, the massive pro-Trump election denial movement that sprung up in the wake of the 2020 election remained virtually silent on Wednesday morning, in comparison to the flood of content it shared in the days and weeks leading up to the election.
It doesn't matter whether baseless allegations about voting irregularities come from the right or the left, says Nina Jankowicz, the former Biden administration disinformation czar who is now CEO of the American Sunlight Project. The impact on our system of these lies is the same: People will end up trusting the infrastructure of democracy less, setting us up for more disinformation and disengagement. These drop-offs in trust take decades to undo. Take a look at countries in Eastern Europe that have been attempting to rebuild trust in the system since the 90s. We should all be wary of these allegations, no matter their source. The posts calling for a recount used a variety of hashtags including #donotconcedekamala and phrases like math aint mathing.
Many of them contained vague claims that something is very off. The one specific claim being made by many of these accounts suggests that there are 20 million missing votes. While at publication time the Associated Press vote count was indeed 16 million votes lower than that for the 2020 election, the explanation is trivially simple: The entirety of the vote hasnt been tabulated yet. Election denial is anti-democratic, whether it comes from the left or the right, David Becker, executive director of the nonpartisan Center for Election Innovation and Research, wrote on X. No, 20 million votes arent missing. Votes are still being counted in many states, including millions in CA alone. Number of votes in 2024 very close to 2020, when all are reported.
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Has anyone contacted Sidney Powell? She would be a perfect fit for this "movement"!
tritsofme
Jun 17
#1
The biggest harm in this conspiracy theory is that it makes citizens even more apathetic
Ponietz
Jun 17
#9
I think the world of Marc Elias. I contribute to him every month. But here is where he is totally wrong.
BComplex
Jun 17
#16
Except he is not wrong, he just wasn't fooled by delusional conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Jun 17
#24
I feel there was a party line after the election, that even Marc Elias (who I adore) bought into.
yellow dahlia
Jun 18
#93
I agree! I think we need to have a public "town hall" with all the dem strategists, and see when
BComplex
Jun 19
#103
and you consider those wild (and essentially meaningless) ramblings - to somehow be ...
stopdiggin
Jun 17
#43
The bomb threats were a real issue but certainly not one that decided the election.
Self Esteem
Jun 17
#60
I'm focusing on one state because it would have been extremely difficult for Harris to win the election without PA.
Self Esteem
Jun 19
#106
I think logically, we can assume that there wasn't 100,000+ people who didn't vote...
Self Esteem
Jun 19
#105
Thiel has connections to Triplite and Palantir, Soros has connections to Dominion and Smartmatic
cadoman
Jun 17
#19
Leonard Leo, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel ... had it all ready to go. Btw Ohio's 2024 Senate race was dirty too.
Botany
Jun 17
#10
Then why did Musk spend several hundred million on getting the vote out for Trump?
Doodley
Jun 17
#32
Thank dog most people don't buy this conspiracy theory. We lost, now let's focus on primaries.
Silent Type
Jun 17
#13
I'm not the person you're resonding to, but the polling was clear it was a razor tight race and they were tied
EdmondDantes_
Jun 18
#83
Ty but national polls really don't show us anything especially with only a thousand people
questionseverything
Jun 18
#86
80,000 simulations, I'm pretty sure anyone could find any result they wanted
questionseverything
Jun 18
#88
This election was TOTALLY rigged by the crypto-loving silicon valley billionaires and the Leonard Leos of the world.
BComplex
Jun 17
#14
So you're accusing Democrats like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden of being complicit in the cover-up of a "stolen election"?
tritsofme
Jun 17
#28
Ridiculous and delusional? You're treading really close to something that's against the rules here...
BComplex
Jun 17
#46
Accusing Kamala Harris and Joe Biden of intentionally covering up a "stolen election" is ridiculous and delusional
tritsofme
Jun 17
#47
"I'm standing by my belief that trump/musk/Russia/LaCivita/Thiel/Leo etc rigged/stole/bomb-threatened our election."
Jedi Guy
Jun 18
#85
So I presume Jackson and Mebane will be introducing their "evidence" in court?
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 18
#65
Why did Trump win in all swing states? How about they had a better machine to get the vote out?
Doodley
Jun 17
#31
The protesters are at best a few percent of the population. They don't reflect how many people voted Kamala or Trump.
Doodley
Jun 17
#44
Will you be selling a bridge to Kamala Harris? She doesn't buy into these nonsense conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Jun 18
#69
If what you say is true, if the chain of custody was tight then a hand count would prove it
questionseverything
Jun 17
#55