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157. Which words of Sachs' did I use?

Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:44 PM

Jun 19

You’re obviously not familiar with my posts. I pride myself on my intellectual integrity. I try to be thoughtful and am consistent in my views. I don’t adopt different positions depending on the party or personalities involved. Wars, like Israel’s assault on Iran, and genocide such as in Gaza are wrong, just as the Holocaust and Rwandan genocide were wrong. That is a basic humanitarian position. I don’t need anyone to tell me what to think, or right from wrong, certainly not Sachs.

You should really be taking your hatred for Sacks out on the OP rather than me. I did not post his views; the OP did.

My views are morally and intellectually driven. That they don’t concur with your support for war with Iran does not make them less than genuine. Since you’ve decided I have nothing “genuine” to contribute, I shall oblige you by discussing nothing with you again.

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Stop Netanyahu Before He Gets Us All Killed [View all] IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 OP

Netanyahu is pure fucking evil. Initech Jun 17 #1

Mutually assured anihilation for all...but I'm sure warmonger Netanyahu has a mutually assured... brush Jun 18 #106

"Zionist manipulation of US foreign policy". There it is. nt LexVegas Jun 17 #2

Yup, this one is being quite transparent when it comes to Israel and Iran. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #4

I hope they both reduce each other's current governments to RUBBLE. Jack Valentino Jun 19 #112

Hey, I'm all for letting Israel and Iran slug it out without committing US forces into combat, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 19 #115

Thanks, we are in complete agreement on that. Jack Valentino Jun 19 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author Ping Tung Jun 17 #9

Are you suggesting that in order to not be an antisemite iemanja Jun 17 #39

Are you suggesting jews control US foreign policy? nt LexVegas Jun 17 #46

The US supports Israel foreign policy iemanja Jun 17 #50

There it is. nt LexVegas Jun 17 #51

You have trouble with reality iemanja Jun 17 #53

Amy Kaplan writes about how the identities of Israel and the US became intertwined iemanja Jun 17 #55

The German Nazis thought much the same.... "manifest destiny" Jack Valentino Jun 19 #109

Netanyahu says jump and Trump asks how high. Yeah you are right. Autumn Jun 18 #89

NO, not "jews"--- but Israelis ?? There's a pretty good argument for THAT... Jack Valentino Jun 19 #108

Thanks for being transparent when it comes to Israel and Iran. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 17 #3

Post removed Post removed Jun 17 #5

It's not claudette Jun 17 #7

It is Mountainguy Jun 17 #8

"Israel's critics are always accused of anti-Semitism , a charge that serves to silence even the mildest questioning of IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #16

Anti-zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Jun 17 #21

LOL, no. Jirel Jun 17 #33

You dont get to redefine bigotry. nt LexVegas Jun 17 #45

LOL, you just did exactly that. Jirel Jun 18 #95

ADL: "Anti-Zionism is antisemitic, in intent or effect" nt LexVegas Jun 18 #97

Is that supposed to end the conversation? choie Jun 18 #103

Extreme far-right Zionism can be viewed the same as Christian Nationalism or Islamic Extremism... AntiFascist Jun 17 #79

No. It's not Autumn Jun 18 #90

No it is NOT Jilly_in_VA Jun 19 #135

.... LexVegas Jun 19 #136

Lol Mountainguy Jun 17 #67

Surely you jest. I guess you are unaware about 2,000+ US companies working in Iran then IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #73

You might want to check the dates Mountainguy Jun 17 #80

If your dates are right,,,, I stand corrected IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #85

More facts...The Israel plot against Abourezk, in his own words..... IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #86

Really? claudette Jun 17 #30

Netanyahu "Getting us all killed"? That's a classic antisemitic trope. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #15

Then how would one say Cuthbert Allgood Jun 17 #34

He has a lot of fans here Bettie Jun 17 #57

yup Skittles Jun 17 #83

I can tell you how one can avoid being antisemitic. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #82

Who made you the arbiter of who is antisemitic? choie Jun 19 #110

My parents and grandparents. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #120

I see choie Jun 19 #125

Have you served on a DU jury? Mosby Jun 19 #128

Yeah choie Jun 19 #129

It is generations of bigots that appointed me. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #130

Geez. What utter nonsense IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #38

How? Mountainguy Jun 17 #69

I've never heard that phrase apllied to either a group of Jews, or all Jews... electric_blue68 Jun 18 #99

"Jews killed Jesus" Beastly Boy Jun 18 #100

Well, I certainly -know about- the "Jews kilked Jesus", 🙄 trope , and the blood libel Lies.... electric_blue68 Jun 18 #101

Was pretty popular in the middle ages Beastly Boy Jun 19 #118

Woah - didn't know about The Black Death/The Plague and Jews. And electric_blue68 Jun 19 #119

Forgot about that one: the Great Replacement antisemitic trope Beastly Boy Jun 19 #123

So wait choie Jun 18 #105

No, I don't think he's saying that. He's talking to me about types of electric_blue68 Jun 19 #107

Attributing to me a stance that I didn't take is indeed illogical. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #124

No it is illogical. choie Jun 19 #126

Do you notice that you keep arguing with something without attributing it to me? Beastly Boy Jun 19 #131

That is ridiculous! choie Jun 18 #104

My point exactly. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #121

And heads of state choie Jun 19 #127

Doesn't make antisemitic tropes any less deadly. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #132

That is just bonkers. Scrivener7 Jun 19 #133

Yep, blood libel is bonkers, just like all other antisemitic tropes. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #134

Completely bonkers. Scrivener7 Jun 19 #138

"Israel's critics are always accused of anti-Semitism", Quote, by US Senator IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #12

"Stop Netanyahu Before He Gets Us All Killed" That's not criticism. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #19

"this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing.... attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospita IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #26

I got it the first time, and I still don't care what a hopelessly indoctrinated zealot has to say. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #28

Forget it man atreides1 Jun 17 #29

Truth Bettie Jun 17 #58

He's already done that, hasn't he? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 17 #64

I've said many things against Netanyahu. I never praised him for anything, on DU or elsewhere. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #84

Wow, that's hysteria. Jirel Jun 17 #35

But someone mentioned "before he gets us all killed" Beastly Boy Jun 17 #68

What a crock. Jirel Jun 18 #96

I see that you are not taking "Stop Netanyahu before hegets us all killed" for a factual statement. Beastly Boy Jun 18 #98

How can saying stop one person be a pogrom? Eko Jun 18 #102

What does "get us all killed" mean? Mosby Jun 17 #77

What about the increasing evidence that he is doing all he can to ethnically cleanse Palistine? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 17 #36

What about it? Beastly Boy Jun 17 #81

"there may be evidence of war crimes" choie Jun 19 #152

I thought I made it clear the first time. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #154

it has become quite the cliche Skittles Jun 17 #60

Standard response to any disagreement with Israeli policy IronLionZion Jun 17 #32

yeah, nothing to see here Skittles Jun 17 #49

He's even claudette Jun 17 #6

"this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing.... attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospita IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #14

Absolutely claudette Jun 17 #31

"The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on." Yossarian from Catch-22 Ping Tung Jun 17 #10

I see the Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory is alive and well sarisataka Jun 17 #11

Even the mildest critics...."Israel's critics are always accused of anti-Semitism" IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #13

I only bring up antisemitism when I see antisemitism sarisataka Jun 17 #18

Anti-zionism is antisemitism. nt LexVegas Jun 17 #23

Can we criticize the actions of the Israeli government though? AloeVera Jun 19 #111

Sure if it's clear that you are criticizing the comradebillyboy Jun 19 #122

Certain Israel critics don't see the difference between criticism and antisemitism. Beastly Boy Jun 17 #25

Which part is a conspiracy theory? iemanja Jun 17 #40

The part asserting the entire Middle East and northeastern Africa sarisataka Jun 17 #54

Point taken iemanja Jun 17 #56

Now is when I really miss President Biden. milestogo Jun 17 #17

But "Genocide Joe had to Go" sarisataka Jun 17 #24

Yet you defend the Trump-Netanyahu policies iemanja Jun 17 #41

My prediction leading up to the election sarisataka Jun 17 #48

Of course it's possible I'm mistaken iemanja Jun 17 #52

I most assuredly do NOT sarisataka Jun 17 #59

Your initial post said: iemanja Jun 17 #66

I was repeating the words of the protesters sarisataka Jun 17 #70

I think the time for that has passed iemanja Jun 17 #74

I have hope, though I and many of us may not live to see it sarisataka Jun 17 #78

Israel needs an intervention, not weapons. Dawson Leery Jun 17 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author sarisataka Jun 17 #22

Every time I hear calls for interevention into a parliamentary democracy, Beastly Boy Jun 17 #27

is WWIII a better alterrnative? Skittles Jun 17 #61

No, but thankfully, this is not the only alternative. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #146

Cut their funding. Dawson Leery Jun 18 #91

What do you think the implications of this would be for the US and the Western world? Beastly Boy Jun 18 #92

Both Israel and the US are experiencing democratic backsliding thought crime Jun 19 #143

When an American Jew calls for the two-state solution, and praises Obama's JCPOA, while attacking Netanyahu muriel_volestrangler Jun 17 #37

Anyone who objects to genocide is an antisemite iemanja Jun 17 #43

You know that Jeffery Sachs supports the genocide of Ukraine? Crunchy Frog Jun 18 #94

Ok iemanja Jun 19 #142

It calls into question his reliability as a source. Crunchy Frog Jun 19 #145

Here's objective for you iemanja Jun 19 #151

And are you able to reach those conclusions on your own Crunchy Frog Jun 19 #156

Which words of Sachs' did I use? iemanja Jun 19 #157

I'm sorry. I made my initial comment in the context of the thread as a whole, Crunchy Frog Jun 19 #158

That seems to be Jilly_in_VA Jun 19 #137

My post was sarcastic iemanja Jun 19 #141

Well, maybe Jilly_in_VA Jun 19 #148

Speaking for myself, that's not what I am saying. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #150

And what they're doing in Gaza Jilly_in_VA Jun 19 #153

No, it isn't. Beastly Boy Jun 19 #155

it's the default position Skittles Jun 17 #71

Fuck Common Dreams. W_HAMILTON Jun 17 #42

Guess you ignore the truth too IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #44

What they said about Biden and Kamala was not the truth -- it was their biased and short-sighted opinion. W_HAMILTON Jun 17 #62

Agree, many of their commentators slammed Biden still $$ support to Israel after slaughtering Gaza IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #65

Biden did what he could to rein in a SOVEREIGN NATION. W_HAMILTON Jun 17 #72

Idiots are those going to war now, killing innocent civilians IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #76

Another good source in Middle East Eye IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #47

Good read malaise Jun 17 #63

Both of these opinion sources have advocated outright anti-Jewish views. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 17 #75

Plot against him by Israel IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 17 #87

A cute fantasy, but irrelevant. Made-up conspiracy theories with no factual basis have no hold on me. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 17 #88

Jeffery Sachs???!! Crunchy Frog Jun 18 #93

TOO BAD an Israeli PM who advocated peace was assassinated some decades ago--- Jack Valentino Jun 19 #113

Oh And what a coincidence. "Rabin was assassinated with Netanyahu's cooperation" vanessa_ca Jun 19 #139

Yes. Netanyahu is a terrorist in his own right IMO, Crunchy Frog Jun 19 #147

I want to weep when I imagine where Israel, Palestine and the world would be had Rabin not been assassinated. -eom vanessa_ca Jun 19 #149

I guess I missed the part of the article that describes how to "stop Netanyahu". LudwigPastorius Jun 19 #114

It's interesting what a large percentage of Israel's history that he has been in power. David__77 Jun 19 #117

"Netanyahu" is just a distraction from the "Iran gets no nukes" imperative gulliver Jun 19 #140

"Iran gets no nukes" is a distraction from a violation of rules based order. thought crime Jun 19 #144