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Martin Eden

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22. The Bush neocons were intent on invading Iraq before 9/11

Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:17 AM

Jun 22

Before GW was elected, as a matter of fact.

9/11 gave them the "Pearl Harbor" they needed to implement the PNAC agenda written in the 1998 document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" which became a blueprint for the Bush administration (like Project 2025 became the current blueprint).

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Another bullshit 'win' like Dubya [View all] IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 22 OP

"We will create a thriving democracy in the Middle East" Walleye Jun 22 #1

+1. "I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations" dalton99a Jun 22 #4

"We know they had nuclear weapons .... Because we destroyed them" dalton99a Jun 22 #2

Did he actually tweet "God bless the Middle East"? bucolic_frolic Jun 22 #3

The Christian God, no. Shipwack Jun 22 #12

it's just their version of the same delusion Skittles Jun 22 #50

Trump criticized Obama for military actions, accusing him MadameButterfly Jun 22 #13

Yeah, that's how I've been feeling for months. calimary Jun 22 #41

Yeah but the worst MadameButterfly Jun 22 #42

Well, there is that. calimary Jun 22 #48

Most Americans believed him, his poll numbers increased, he was re-elected and the Iraq war lasted eight years. sop Jun 22 #5

Exactly, and that's the main takeaway. Xavier Breath Jun 22 #6

The difference, though, was that we were attacked first. Granted, it wasn't by Iraq. Ocelot II Jun 22 #8

I'm well aware that the situation was different. Xavier Breath Jun 22 #17

Oh, quite. The situation is different but the craven media are as eager as ever Ocelot II Jun 22 #18

Agreed, they've only worsened in subsequent years. Xavier Breath Jun 22 #20

The Bush neocons were intent on invading Iraq before 9/11 Martin Eden Jun 22 #22

Iraq was a problem long before that. Ocelot II Jun 22 #28

That "area's messes" grew from the colonial period Martin Eden Jun 22 #45

An awful lot of people PatSeg Jun 22 #15

When does Krasnov land on an aircraft carrier FalloutShelter Jun 22 #7

No! No! murielm99 Jun 22 #9

I'd pay to watch that! Ocelot II Jun 22 #19

It also has the potential end the daily post by Orrex Martin Eden Jun 22 #23

It will have to be specially crafted anyway Bayard Jun 22 #26

I got the opportunity in the summer of 74 BOSSHOG Jun 22 #51

Wasn't it Rumsfeld who said we only needed 30,000 troops? louis-t Jun 22 #10

I remember "we know they are hiding WMD because we can't find them". twodogsbarking Jun 22 #11

I remember Bush doing a really obscene PatSeg Jun 22 #16

Every time I see a commercial pleading for donations to help grievously wounded soldiers Martin Eden Jun 22 #24

I hate to say it but ... bif Jun 22 #30

Dim Son was dumb, and did evil things. Martin Eden Jun 22 #31

And he appears to do evil things PatSeg Jun 22 #37

"The Rapist makes W look like Einstein." Wednesdays Jun 23 #52

Or that we could end up with someone much worse PatSeg Jun 22 #36

Yes, it was at a Washington correspondents dinner. John1956PA Jun 22 #29

I can't believe his advisers let him do it PatSeg Jun 22 #38

W's routine at the 2004 dinner mocked the outcry of us Progressives that the 2003 Iraq invasion was based on a lie. John1956PA Jun 22 #43

"We don't have to" PatSeg Jun 22 #44

It had something to do with his dog Barney. LisaM Jun 22 #35

Yes, "No weapons in here...." PatSeg Jun 22 #39

It was also around that time he made a Soviet-grade historical rewrite... JHB Jun 22 #47

That brings back memories PatSeg Jun 22 #49

Mexico will pay for the wall. ICE will only target dangerous criminals. Tax cuts trickle down. IronLionZion Jun 22 #14

I WISH pundits, analysts, and politicians would stop pretending that the Tr*mp WH carefully wiggs Jun 22 #21

Exactly Hornedfrog2000 Jun 22 #34

Yeah? Says you and fuck me. If it wasn't for Dubya, 3Hotdogs Jun 22 #25

I'm no historian Beatlelvr Jun 22 #27

Iirc lonely bird Jun 22 #32

My only thoughts after reading the posts Dan Jun 22 #33

It'll be over in six days or six weeks, I doubt six months, so sayeth Donny Rumfeld. flashman13 Jun 22 #40

Just tell 'em what you want them to hear. calimary Jun 22 #46