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In reply to the discussion: Do you think Trump cheated in the last election? [View all]JHB
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Nixon offered a "better deal" to South Vietnam to scuttle the Paris Peace Talks: turned out to be true
Reagan's campaign tried to contact the Iranians to prevent them from making a deal with Carter: one of them confessed when Carter went into hospice
2000 election, Florida: If I recall correctly, an after-the-fact review by a media consortium found that Bush still would have won in all the scenarios where Gore could have challenged results in particular districts, but buried in there was the scenario of a full statewide recount of all legal ballots, and in that case Gore would have won.
Less specifically, the surest clue to what malfeasance the Republicans are up to has, for several decades, been "whatever they're accusing the Democrats of", and they were relentless in pushing the image that Democrats steal elections. They've been doing that since at least 1960 (despite the fact that had Nixon won Illinois, Kennedy would still have won).
We know there are ways to exploit the voting systems because competitions are held to get into them as a learning tool to find and patch exploitable weak spots. We also know that billionaire tech bros like to throw money around to get what they want, and this is right in their wheelhouse.
"It was stolen" is not something I'm going to lead with, but people doing a deep-dive into the election results data are finding statistical anomalies consistent with tampering. That in itself is not proof, but it is cause to do full forensic audits, not just sampling.
Do I think Trump "cheated"? Better to say "I'm holding my tongue, but I strongly suspect it and won't be at all surprised if it was, indeed stolen."
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