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chouchou

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58. Simply for one reason. No..not in concrete but,.

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Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:08 AM

Jun 23

If Trump can/could ..he absolutely would.

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Do you think Trump cheated in the last election? [View all] kentuck Jun 22 OP

Without a doubt yes MustLoveBeagles Jun 22 #1

He wanted to avoid jail. luvallpeeps Jun 22 #2

I think it was partly suppression... kentuck Jun 22 #7

On top of all the ReThug gerrymandering? True Dough Jun 22 #3

I believe IT had his vote counters in North Carolina but I would have to ask eLoon about LoisB Jun 22 #4

Trump is to stupid to pull it off. Musk amerikat Jun 22 #5

For sure canetoad Jun 22 #37

Trump essentially said that Musk had found ways to exploit weaknesses in the tabulation systems Bluetus Jun 22 #6

Then why didn't Musk hack downballot races? Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #11

Maybe he just had someone hand out $100 dollar bills just to vote for Trump? kentuck Jun 22 #12

It's an angle without evidence Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #16

Was it investigated? kentuck Jun 22 #18

It's extremely common for people to vote for president and leave the rest of the ballot blank Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #22

In Pennsylvania in 2024, There were about 71,000 more votes for President Wiz Imp Jun 23 #39

The reality based community thanks you for your support Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #41

Facts matter. Thank you for sharing this EdmondDantes_ Jun 23 #75

The entire argument Mountainguy Jun 23 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Jun 23 #40

Risk/Reward Bluetus Jun 23 #47

As you said, all theories, with no evidence Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #59

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying Bluetus Jun 23 #69

They have conducted audits Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #72

Please provide evidence of any recount activity in any of the swing states. Bluetus Jun 23 #81

You must think the secs of state and Marc Elias are dumb hicks Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #83

You are getting so close, but Bluetus Jun 24 #90

Audits include reviews of chain of custody, as well as partial recounts, among other things. Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #92

You are correct. I do not trust the Dem SoS Bluetus Jun 24 #94

Spreading evidence-free CT's reduces confidence and is likely to reduce turnout Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #96

I'm not the one spreading CTs. Bluetus Jun 24 #98

So, it appears to come down to this: Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #99

I am not denying anything. Bluetus Jun 24 #100

Well, since you are truly an experienced expert in the field, your duty to your country is clear Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #105

I get it that you don't understand. Your sarcasm does not legitimize your willingness to deny Bluetus Jun 24 #106

*sigh* Gee, Whiz... Fiendish Thingy Jun 25 #108

This is not complicated, not for IT people Bluetus Jun 25 #109

Most state governments have their own IT depts. Fiendish Thingy Jun 25 #110

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with state governments Bluetus Jun 25 #111

You haven't answered a very important question Fiendish Thingy Jun 25 #113

Those are excellent questions Bluetus Jun 25 #114

I have answered your questions. Now, you answer one for me. Bluetus Jun 25 #115

You have explained what is *possible* Fiendish Thingy Jun 25 #116

What I am doing Bluetus Jun 25 #117

Regarding the models Bluetus Jun 25 #112

Information for your enlightenment: Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #65

Information for YOUR enlightenment Bluetus Jun 23 #70

The county in question had hundreds of thousands of votes cast Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #73

Not only exact same arguments made in 2020 by Trump - Ms. Toad Jun 23 #74

Maybe he did Clouds Passing Jun 24 #104

If by cheated, you mean altered or tampered with vote tallies Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #8

"he used quasi-legal methods to suppress voters' rights and reject valid votes for flimsy reasons" kentuck Jun 22 #9

With millions of 2020 voters staying home, how would one know? Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #14

Very possible. kentuck Jun 22 #23

exactly: the elections are secure -- Krasnov cheats in other ways cadoman Jun 23 #57

Indeed, but when the word "cheating" is used, people assume it means votes were changed. Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #60

it's absolutely a problem with the term and we need a better term for it cadoman Jun 23 #63

Dropping the term "cheating" is not surrendering any weapons Fiendish Thingy Jun 23 #67

so what term do you use to describe how "he" won? (nt) cadoman Jun 24 #88

In a single word? Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #89

if one word encompasses six concepts but we refuse to use it cadoman Jun 24 #91

So, is it cheating if a husband lies to his wife? Fiendish Thingy Jun 24 #93

Of course it's possible to cheat with the equipment we have questionseverything Jun 23 #79

are you an expert on computer election equipment? cadoman Jun 24 #87

If lying through... Chemical Bill Jun 24 #85

The DNC and Democratic Candidates ... PBC_Democrat Jun 22 #10

He's engaged in "legal" cheating. Ms. Toad Jun 22 #13

Hard to believe all of those are legal, huh? kentuck Jun 22 #15

It won't be legal once we expand the courts Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #19

We don't want to admit that there may be corruption in our Party also. kentuck Jun 22 #21

Some really disappointing names on the bill, although I'm not surprised to see Hickenlooper's name. CrispyQ Jun 23 #62

He cheats at golf. bluedigger Jun 22 #17

I think it would be naive to think he didn't cheat.... kentuck Jun 22 #20

Whether or not the cheating changed the outcome is a separate question. bluedigger Jun 22 #24

Define "cheated." SSJVegeta Jun 22 #25

When has he not cheated? ZDU Jun 22 #26

If he's breathing choie Jun 22 #27

The question ForgedCrank Jun 22 #28

Why is "I'm not sure" or "don't know" NOT an option in your poll? Jack Valentino Jun 22 #29

Same with me mvd Jun 22 #31

I still don't think that was really possible, BUT--- I am less sure about it. Jack Valentino Jun 22 #32

Do I think he'd cheat if he could? Yes. Do I think he might have cheated? Yes. But have I seen any evidence? No. Doodley Jun 22 #30

I'm in NC... ms liberty Jun 22 #33

Yes, but I think he did actually win also JI7 Jun 22 #34

Let's tick off the "conspiracy theories" that turned out to be true JHB Jun 22 #35

He once orchestrated an insurrection, of course he cheated. Emile Jun 22 #36

If true, then the outcome of the 2026 election is already determined Kaleva Jun 22 #38

Because he told us he did montanacowboy Jun 23 #42

Trump adheres to the pro-wrestling dictum: comradebillyboy Jun 23 #43

He cheated with the aid of Elon Musk, Peter Theil, and Steve Bannon! Initech Jun 23 #44

NO F"N WAY he won all the swing states bob4460 Jun 23 #45

Where's the "is the Pope Catholic?" line jmowreader Jun 23 #46

This is absolutely false. There is a district where that happened EdmondDantes_ Jun 23 #78

Politifact seems to say... Chemical Bill Jun 24 #86

Would spreading false information like you did qualify as cheating? EdmondDantes_ Jun 24 #97

I haven't said that there is a county where Harris got zero votes. Chemical Bill Jun 25 #107

Please define 'cheated'. TIA Celerity Jun 23 #48

From Oxford dictionary: kentuck Jun 23 #50

I think that Trump lied thousands of times, that there were thousands of scurilous false attack adverts run by the RW, Celerity Jun 23 #56

I think Rebl2 Jun 23 #49

has he ever not cheated? rampartd Jun 23 #51

Of course Maine Abu El Banat Jun 23 #52

he's a con. through and through stillcool Jun 23 #53

I WAS skeptical of these claims.... Happy Hoosier Jun 23 #54

With regards to the voting, or his wife? usonian Jun 23 #55

Simply for one reason. No..not in concrete but,. chouchou Jun 23 #58

Elon cheated. milestogo Jun 23 #61

But to what degree? kentuck Jun 23 #66

The software was coded to affect the tabulation of votes kimbutgar Jun 23 #64

I don't know how, but he is a cheater Americanme Jun 23 #68

I feel like we are perilously close Sympthsical Jun 23 #71

Elon bought it for him get the red out Jun 23 #76

Not at all DFW Jun 23 #77

What I THINK, does t matter. johnnyfins Jun 23 #80

Didn't but changed mind recently. Cheats that include Trump made Trump POTUS. nt PufPuf23 Jun 24 #84

VOTER SUPPRESSION and B.See Jun 24 #95

There hasn't been a non-compromised election purple_haze Jun 24 #101

The normal republican cheating plus Buzz cook Jun 24 #102

He's a cheater, cheater and a wife beater Clouds Passing Jun 24 #103