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32. If he did renounce his citizenship of the US, could the US have not recognised the Confederacy, which they probably did
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:25 AM
Jun 23

but if having done that, and he hadn't become a citizen of a recognised country, then maybe his renouncing of his US citizenship was invalid ?

Either way (and hindsight is wonderful of course), the US government were too soft in victory.

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Republicans needed a precedent for Nixon justaprogressive Jun 22 #1
It was Gen. Grant who prevented Lee from being prosecuted Kaleva Jun 22 #2
Andrew Johnson pardoned Jeff Davis, Lee, and other Confederate leaders in December of 1868... kentuck Jun 22 #4
Lee was never pardoned during his lifetime Kaleva Jun 22 #9
The paperwork was misplaced, and rediscovered about that time. eppur_se_muova Jun 22 #16
Interesting! Kaleva Jun 22 #21
whoa, thank you for sharing this! TacosUberAlles Jun 23 #29
Grant later invited Lee to the WH. Times were different. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 22 #17
Hard to tell what would've happened in Lincoln hadn't gotten assassinated. brush Jun 22 #3
Being magnanimous in victory was not an innovation for Lincoln bucolic_frolic Jun 22 #5
But anger and blame are only components of division. kentuck Jun 22 #7
Great post! Akakoji Jun 22 #6
Some details: WarGamer Jun 22 #8
He led his troops at Shiloh... kentuck Jun 22 #10
Lee wasn't AT Shiloh WarGamer Jun 22 #11
Breckenridge commanded at Shiloh kentuck Jun 22 #12
No... Breckenridge was a subordinate General to General Johnston at Shiloh... WarGamer Jun 22 #13
Kentuck, those dates don't figure. Jeebo Jun 23 #23
THe 17th Amendment allowed for the popular election of US Senators. kentuck Jun 23 #34
John C. Breckenridge sweetapogee Jun 23 #33
I've always asked that, and all the confederate Generals demosincebirth Jun 22 #14
Grant prevented it. Kaleva Jun 22 #15
See my reply #16. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 22 #18
They had to unify the country. There were too many Southerners to give out Melon Jun 22 #19
Andrew Johnson was something of a flip-flopper. Sometimes he supported strong measures against ... eppur_se_muova Jun 22 #20
In the early 21st century, Johnson is among those commonly mentioned as the worst presidents in U.S. history. Celerity Jun 23 #26
Buchanan failed to prevent the Civil War, Johnson failed to consolidate victory. eppur_se_muova Jun 23 #31
Thank you kentuck for starting this interesting and informative thread! Kaleva Jun 22 #22
About Jefferson Davis ... Jeebo Jun 23 #25
+1 Kaleva Jun 23 #27
If he did renounce his citizenship of the US, could the US have not recognised the Confederacy, which they probably did OnDoutside Jun 23 #32
Lost Cause of the Confederacy Celerity Jun 23 #24
"With malice toward none; with charity for all..." Buns_of_Fire Jun 23 #28
I just wanted to say thank you everyone TacosUberAlles Jun 23 #30
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