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JHB

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7. Agreed. "Democratic socialism" misuses the term "socialism". It's "New Deal-ism."

Reply to elleng (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:50 AM

Jun 25

The New Deal is not and never was socialism. That's a RW characterization.

There are three types of people who call the New Deal "socialism":

1) RWers, who call EVERYTHING THEY DON'T LIKE "Socialism";
2) Superlefties, who want to claim credit for the New Deal, even though their ideological ancestors in the 30s and 40s railed against it as a sellout and insufficient, because those people WERE socialists and wanted actual socialism, and the New Deal was too much a compromise for them to tolerate. And
3) People who've picked up the definition from either of the other groups.

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They are saying that the Dem primary in NYC is something of a referendum on the future of our party. Huffington..... [View all] FadedMullet Jun 24 OP

'They' should find a different vocabulary. elleng Jun 24 #1

Agreed. "Democratic socialism" misuses the term "socialism". It's "New Deal-ism." JHB Jun 25 #7

No it isn't. Cuomo is not the "litmus" test of anything. There are too many candidates in the race, and rank lostincalifornia Jun 24 #2

I like the fact it leads to candidates getting along AZProgressive Jun 24 #3

I'd say there are "too many candidates" on the ballot, but also say that rank choice voting helps clear it up. FadedMullet Jun 25 #4

Ranked choice has nothing to do with the outcome of the first ballot iemanja Jun 25 #5

Well most of the establishment don't have the personal baggage of Cuomo newdeal2 Jun 25 #6

Cuomo was a dumbass candidate Dorian Gray Jun 25 #8

I don't think so. Cuomo was uniquely offensive. Renew Deal Jun 25 #9