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Initech

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28. The propagandists are how we got here.

Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:14 PM

Jun 25

And yes I'm talking about the Sean Hannitys and Laura Ingrahams of the world. And then there's the even worse, more extreme tin foil hat conspiracy theory psychopaths like your Alex Joneses and your Tucker Carlsons and your Benny Johnsons and your Charlie Kirks, and your Ben Shapiros, and so on. Worse than that are your average megachurch pastors who are using their pulpits to preach hate to scare people into voting for the GOP.

This is a truly massive problem. What makes matters worse is that these scumbags are abusing their free speech privileges and getting away with it. We can't silence them and I'm not advocating for that. But something must be done. We have to address the problem with propaganda in this country or it's going to get worse. The real enemies of democracy are the people that own the media - Steve Bannon, Rupert Murdoch, Elon Musk, Patrick Soon-Shiongh, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg. These are some really bad guys. They're brainwashing the masses and getting away with it.

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We are fighting the wrong enemy. [View all] kentuck Jun 25 OP

The average Republican voter is who puts the elected Republicans in office JI7 Jun 25 #1

Because, like the average Democrat, they do not understand the true culprit. kentuck Jun 25 #2

No idea what you are talking about JI7 Jun 25 #4

Exactly! kentuck Jun 25 #7

Do you realize that you are contradicting yourself? Gimpyknee Jun 25 #19

How so? kentuck Jun 25 #20

All true. bucolic_frolic Jun 25 #3

Even the Republican Party has its bosses unblock Jun 25 #5

That is true, but... kentuck Jun 25 #8

Agreed, but we must fight to replace them, not convince them unblock Jun 25 #10

Yes, we must fight to replace them, but... kentuck Jun 25 #11

Yeah, we're always on defense. Each politician struggles just to keep their own seat. unblock Jun 25 #13

I don't think money is the primary problem of the Democratic Party. kentuck Jun 25 #14

I agree but Ohio samplegirl Jun 26 #73

This Auggie Jun 25 #17

You have to include BigMin28 Jun 25 #6

The orange one and his minions in Washington are a reflection of the hate 80 million repug voters have for us. nt Hotler Jun 25 #9

I do not think the country is that evenly split, between haters and non-haters. kentuck Jun 25 #12

You have not been paying attention to their message Keepthesoulalive Jun 25 #58

They believe what their brains are being fed. kentuck Jun 25 #63

They take pride in their hate Keepthesoulalive Jun 25 #65

Haters are going to hate... kentuck Jun 25 #67

Why aren't people of color who have been here for centuries Keepthesoulalive Jun 25 #68

We live in a "tribal" society, moreso than anytime I can remember... kentuck Jun 25 #69

What it is you suggest we do? whopis01 Jun 26 #74

I suggest you get involved with your party on a local level Keepthesoulalive Jun 26 #79

There is nothing there I am not already doing whopis01 Jun 26 #81

You are not going to change people's minds who are in a cult Keepthesoulalive Jun 26 #82

I said nothing about redemption whopis01 Jun 26 #83

In high school we were taught about propaganda Keepthesoulalive Jun 26 #84

They have been the enemy since RR. Beowulf42 Jun 25 #15

Yes, and we have not attacked their leaders in the same way they have attacked our leaders. kentuck Jun 25 #16

Fairness Doctrine YepYep Jun 25 #29

You nailed it. republianmushroom Jun 25 #18

Basically, I think our criticism and attacks are disproportionately directed. kentuck Jun 25 #22

My MAGA family SARose Jun 25 #21

We might have to accept that some people are unreachable? kentuck Jun 25 #24

Awesome comprehensive commentary SA DENVERPOPS Jun 25 #26

Thank you SARose Jun 25 #60

How about this DENVERPOPS Jun 25 #66

100% agree SARose Jun 25 #70

They abdicated everything... kentuck Jun 25 #71

All Trump had to say DENVERPOPS Jun 25 #72

Diary Starbeach Jun 26 #75

The Republican Party truly believes... -misanthroptimist Jun 25 #23

"...they believe that Western Civilization is a failure..." Jedi Guy Jun 26 #80

There's a lot to unpack there -misanthroptimist Jun 27 #85

I'll grant you that society will look much different if Republicans got all their wishlist items. Jedi Guy Jun 27 #86

The number in favor of autocracy has always been non-zero. -misanthroptimist Jun 27 #87

You have it half correct - Nigrum Cattus Jun 25 #25

We might be witnessing a hostage situation Qutzupalotl Jun 25 #27

The propagandists are how we got here. Initech Jun 25 #28

Agree. yonder Jun 25 #44

It's all so the billionaires can get richer while the authoritarians hold onto their power. Initech Jun 25 #57

I consider Elise Stefanik mgardener Jun 25 #30

Basically, someone in Democratic leadership needs to speak out against these Republican leaders. kentuck Jun 25 #31

The Greedy Ol' Party will fight any one who against that greed. If Trump decided to not end medicaid or LiberalArkie Jun 25 #32

REPUBLICAN is a dirty word. It should be used as such and in place of TRUMP. live love laugh Jun 25 #33

Trump and the republicans should be tied to one another in every sentence. chowder66 Jun 25 #61

Republicans serve the Oligarchy that finances their political careers Martin Eden Jun 25 #34

Good points. kentuck Jun 25 #37

You are right. I posted this a couple months ago. I'm tired of hearing about FatAss. He's too stupid to do this alone Cheezoholic Jun 25 #35

Absolutely! kentuck Jun 25 #38

Yes. You're absolutely right. ancianita Jun 25 #36

We need a leader that can step forth and defend democracy over autocracy... kentuck Jun 25 #40

You're onto the Big Response strategy from here on out, so thank you. I just posted more on this in GD. ancianita Jun 25 #46

Thank you kentuck Jun 25 #49

Well, you're not wrong...quite. But I would drill down even just a bit further. PatrickforB Jun 25 #39

I do not disagree. kentuck Jun 25 #43

We fight them through policies touted by the progressives. Because those are the policies that PatrickforB Jun 25 #59

Agreed. The Republican party has aided and abetted Trumpism from the beginning. Beartracks Jun 25 #41

The party should be destroyed entirely. rickyhall Jun 25 #42

The new "bosses" are increasing their numbers day by day. Prairie_Seagull Jun 25 #45

If we want to be the majority... kentuck Jun 25 #48

Completely agree. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #47

We need to do this because that is the only way to penetrate right-wing media. kentuck Jun 25 #50

The old adage "All politics are local" is appropriate here jgmiller Jun 25 #51

I agree with your points.... kentuck Jun 25 #55

Completely agree with you jgmiller Jun 25 #56

Good thing the re-publicans in Congress are not alive to see this! Festivito Jun 25 #52

K&R spanone Jun 25 #53

YESSSSS!!!!!!! orchidlady Jun 25 #54

100%. I've been saying this for a long time. More focus and pressure needs to be put on every republican. chowder66 Jun 25 #62

Trump is like a lightning rod... kentuck Jun 25 #64

Common Ground OC375 Jun 26 #76

How do you find common ground with fascists? kentuck Jun 26 #77

No Idea OC375 Jun 26 #78