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8. What Mamdani (and by extension, the Democratic Party) has to do is:

Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:15 AM

Jun 27

separate the clumped spaghetti of issues and make each issue comprehensible to the public.

Gaza: Supporting Gaza is not supporting HAMAS. Palestinians are neither (necessarily) pro-HAMAS nor Israeli. They are their own culture. And they have been victims of both HAMAS and Israel. Especially the sick, the elderly, and the children.

Israel: Not supporting Israel in its military incursions into Gaza is not equivalent to being anti-Israel, anti-Zionist. Supporting Gaza and human rights is not demanding the destruction of Israel.

Supporting Gaza and not supporting Israeli intentions of depriving Gaza of its land is not a ruse for justifying antisemitism. It's not Jew-hating.

It's possible to support Judaism, Israel, and Gaza simultaneously and should be encouraged.

The prospect of Mamdani as Mayor of New York City has as much impact on resolving the complexities of Israel and Gaza as when then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani had Yasser Arafat ejected from a concert by the New York Philharmonic held for world leaders attending the 50th anniversary of the United Nations in 1995. (Giuliani pointedly did not invite Arafat to the concert, but another delegate gave him his ticket.) The political stunt didn't move the needle a bit.

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Mamdani stood firm in his support of Gaza. The Democratic party could learn from him [View all] BeyondGeography Jun 27 OP

They could and they should, but the old guard won't. It refuses to even acknowledge this. vanessa_ca Jun 27 #1

Nadler was quick to endorse him for the November election BeyondGeography Jun 27 #2

Thank you Rep Nadler! I was pleased to see Elizabeth Warren congratulate him too -eom vanessa_ca Jun 27 #4

They're smearing Zohran the way they smeared Bernie... it's not gonna work this time!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 27 #3

It didn't work against Bernie karynnj Jun 27 #9

I paid close attention to the polls in 2015-2016 AZProgressive Jun 27 #12

I still believe if she had chosen Bernie mountain grammy Jun 27 #21

Didn't Bernie win the 1st six or so primaries? snot Jun 27 #23

Not surprising Bernie had already been mayor, Congressman and Senator karynnj Jun 27 #27

I feel its too early to go around saying the democratic party needs to learn from him Samael13 Jun 27 #5

It was already clear that many Dems do not label anything short of unconditional support of Israel anti-Semitic BeyondGeography Jun 27 #6

New Yorkers like to think they are the center of the universe newdeal2 Jun 27 #14

I think his campaign strategy such as knocking on a lot of doors AZProgressive Jun 27 #16

Exposing the Smears: DoorDash, Bloomberg and Ackman Really Behind Anti-Mamdani Mailers Celerity Jun 27 #7

This is very top heavy on propaganda and cliches. Anything "corporations" Nixie Jun 27 #20

What Mamdani (and by extension, the Democratic Party) has to do is: no_hypocrisy Jun 27 #8

He won because he had a good positive message - make NY affordable against a bad human JT45242 Jun 27 #10

Chuck Schumer ever call him to congratulate him on his primary win? Emile Jun 27 #11

Who cares? I doubt that Mamdami worries about such trivial matters. Why would anyone? Oopsie Daisy Jun 27 #13

So yesterday you gave the excuse he was in Emile Jun 27 #15

Again, jumping to conclusions that are unfounded. It's silly to assume Schumer does not "back democratic candidates" * Oopsie Daisy Jun 27 #17

The only thing to learn is to pivot to call out trump & the gop - Every. Time. Not Gaza. themaguffin Jun 27 #18

It also means defending New Yorkers like Mahmoud Khalil from political persecution. David__77 Jun 27 #19

that's a separate issue. I'm referring to the narratives and the battle in reply to the OP article themaguffin Jun 27 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jun 27 #24

He didn't send any weapons to Netanyahu AZProgressive Jun 27 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jun 27 #26

Mamdani isn't responsible for the conditions residents of Gaza are facing AZProgressive Jun 27 #28