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tulipsandroses

(7,869 posts)
31. Nope. trump supporters are either stupid, immoral, bigots, or some combination thereof
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jul 3

In my book, to be forgiven, you should work to repair the damage you caused. Remorse is not enough.
A victim of abuse should not be expected to forgive the abuser.

MAGA/trumpism whatever you want to call it, is here to stay. We need to recognize that. This is not about trump. Even if they were to turn on trump, it is only a matter of time before another trump like figure comes along and they support whatever evil that person wants to do.
trump is the symptom. There is a sickness that has always been in the American blood stream.The racism, bigotry, misogyny, meanness, extreme selfishness - I want my cheap eggs - (for the ones that claim they voted because of price of eggs) even if it means that people have to suffer for cheap eggs. See how many of them don't mind if other people lose their healthcare, as long as they are not affected.

Forget the convictions. - Many Americans do not care about that. They don't mind having a criminal president.
What I cannot understand, is that one million people died from Covid 19. He botched the response. Untold deaths due to his disregard for life.
He could have taken a different stance - He could have leveled with the American people, took action to save lives, encouraged the vaccines - and assured people that closures were necessary but the Government would do everything in its power to help us get back on track, once we got control of the virus. IMO, he would have won easily had he taken that stance. Instead he chose to weaponize it into us vs them. Now even more people will die now that we have a man in charge of our health who does not believe in vaccines and medications for mental health.

I was in NY during 9/11 - I remember the days and weeks after that, walking around the city, people were traumatized, you could see it on their faces. The fear was very apparent. You didn't know if we were still in danger. Were we next?? Is there another plane about to hit us??
I had that same feeling during the height of Covid lockdown, when I did venture out, I often saw that same look on people's faces. The fear of not knowing if we were safe.
People that witnessed that fear, just said, eh, eggs, I'll trade cheap eggs to put the person responsible for inflicting so much trauma on the nation back in office. Then came Jan 6, more trauma. They saw all that and said, yeah, give me more of that.
No, I cannot forgive people that inflict this kind of trauma.
They should be shamed. They depend on Dems always being the nice guys to continue their evil ways. Fuck em!

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No BeerBarrelPolka Jul 3 #1
Same here Grim Chieftain Jul 3 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 3 #2
There are some people who... LuckyCharms Jul 3 #3
No Irish_Dem Jul 3 #4
FUCK NO!!! atreides1 Jul 3 #5
In my mailbox this morning.... homegirl Jul 3 #93
I'm having a very difficult time doing so... SKKY Jul 3 #6
No cannot be forgiven but their minds are ignorant and distorted bucolic_frolic Jul 3 #7
No. Glorfindel Jul 3 #8
They knew what they voted for. C_U_L8R Jul 3 #9
None of us deserve grace or forgiveness. summer_in_TX Jul 4 #138
No sinkingfeeling Jul 3 #10
I think the act of forgiveness is intended to give the offender a way to excuse their behavior so they can in2herbs Jul 3 #11
No. Fuck them. Vinca Jul 3 #12
I always hope for redemption Just_Vote_Dem Jul 3 #13
Nope. Bettie Jul 3 #14
The ones that still support him? S/V Loner Jul 3 #15
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For voting for Trump. That's what the OP asks. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 3 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 3 #23
Get what? LuckyCharms Jul 3 #24
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I sometimes have trouble tying my shoes, so I understand completely. LuckyCharms Jul 3 #27
I'm sure that the person who you replied to who joined DU... literally today... is commenting in good faith... themaguffin Jul 3 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 3 #40
Traitor is a GD Treasonous, Psychopathic Lying Cha Jul 3 #123
For being an Asshole. kentuck Jul 3 #30
For a.... sheshe2 Jul 3 #34
Oh yeah Lulu KC Jul 3 #66
Hey, Lulu. sheshe2 Jul 3 #69
What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jul 3 #132
No. GoCubsGo Jul 3 #17
Seeing that... purr-rat beauty Jul 3 #18
Hell no! bamagal62 Jul 3 #19
Why in the world would you forgive them? NoRethugFriends Jul 3 #20
I might be able to forgive a couple of dull-witted, low-information acquaintances Vogon_Glory Jul 3 #21
I forgave the guy who stole from me, but Torchlight Jul 3 #25
they were lied to The Blue Flower Jul 3 #28
If they did it the first time in 2016, yes. DinahMoeHum Jul 3 #29
Nope. trump supporters are either stupid, immoral, bigots, or some combination thereof tulipsandroses Jul 3 #31
Nope. nt Autumn Jul 3 #32
They don't want forgiveness They're enjoying this Bobstandard Jul 3 #33
Exactly. They're not just bullies, they're sadists. They. Enjoy. This. Karasu Jul 3 #97
NO! sheshe2 Jul 3 #35
No peggysue2 Jul 3 #36
No. But it doesn't matter, because most aren't seeking forgiveness, and won't ever. RockRaven Jul 3 #37
Never. CanonRay Jul 3 #38
Nope Dave says Jul 3 #39
No, why should I? gordianot Jul 3 #41
Forgiveness is something you do for yourself. alittlelark Jul 3 #42
Never. 2MuchNoise Jul 3 #43
Can forgive a few vapor2 Jul 3 #44
I only forgive ppl who ask to be forgiven,,,, KarenS Jul 3 #45
I believe some people who voted for Trump are good people. Oneironaut Jul 3 #46
Most of the ignorance is a choice. hay rick Jul 3 #99
I'm a Big F No Emile Jul 3 #47
It's not my place to offer forgiveness PJMcK Jul 3 #48
Not if they voted for him in 2024 FelineOverlord Jul 3 #49
No! dlilafae Jul 3 #50
No OLDMDDEM Jul 3 #51
Nein non nyet ... hell NO! LSparkle Jul 3 #52
Nope. LuvLoogie Jul 3 #53
Don't stress yourself about it.... Sogo Jul 3 #54
They don't particularly care for the concept, either. "Empathy is evil" and all that shit.. Karasu Jul 3 #94
No. My nephews, 30 and 27, voted for him Danmel Jul 3 #55
nope Kali999 Jul 3 #56
NO. I haven't spoken to them and I will not unless I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO for some reason. CousinIT Jul 3 #57
NO. Never claudette Jul 3 #58
No, fuck no ZDU Jul 3 #59
Hell no, they voted to kill democracy and the damn well knew it JCMach1 Jul 3 #60
The first time. Yes. After that no way. yourout Jul 3 #61
For those who voted for him twice? Absolutely not. sakabatou Jul 3 #62
No. They brought a concentration camp to American soil. Fuck them. Initech Jul 3 #63
No. haele Jul 3 #64
Never! IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 3 #65
NEVER NameAlreadyTaken Jul 3 #67
No however... SuzyandPuffpuff Jul 3 #68
ONLY if they can articulate their regret. NoSheep Jul 3 #70
Only if they confess their sin and ask for it. surfered Jul 3 #71
I think forgiveness is something we do for ourselves. Heidi Jul 3 #73
For me, forgiveness requires redemption Martin Eden Jul 3 #74
No, Mr.Bee Jul 3 #75
Is this a purity test? Is that what we're doing here? Maru Kitteh Jul 3 #76
NO ! Iamscrewed Jul 3 #77
Hell no LW1977 Jul 3 #78
Never! OrlandoDem2 Jul 3 #79
It matters not in the least orangecrush Jul 3 #80
Fuck no. Nor can I forgive anyone who STILL identifies as a Republican after the last 10 years, especially after 1/6/21. Karasu Jul 3 #81
Maybe only the ones I know are too ignorant of the real world. Callie1979 Jul 3 #82
Everyone that voted for this did it for their own unforgivable reason: Ol Janx Spirit Jul 3 #83
HARD NO... only understand the millionaires -- JT45242 Jul 3 #84
No. These fuckers weren't stupid or uninformed. They voted for what they wanted and they Texin Jul 3 #85
Hell no! Xoan Jul 3 #86
No. They voted for Trump because they hate people like me. erodriguez Jul 3 #87
Only if they admit SocialDemocrat61 Jul 3 #88
A lot of them are good people, but seriously deluded. Jeebo Jul 3 #89
I can forgive some. Those who voted for him because they were stupid. That's how they were born and Fil1957 Jul 3 #90
No absolutely not I have lost a lot during the first 6 months of Trump's Jspur Jul 3 #91
Never-ever. Not a fucking chance. (nt) Paladin Jul 3 #92
Fuck 'em. I have no use for trumphumpers. I hope they enjoy lying in the bed they made for us all. camartinwv Jul 3 #95
Nope electricmonk Jul 3 #96
If there is no genuine remorse then I won't forgive them. BigDemVoter Jul 3 #98
No way DownriverDem Jul 3 #100
No. Absolutely not. hamsterjill Jul 3 #101
This cult does not listen to facts bmichaelh Jul 3 #102
No underpants Jul 3 #103
No, not ever. Not a one of them. Nope, nope, nope. Meadowoak Jul 3 #104
MAYBE yes to people who were duped by him the first time, and learned from it. calimary Jul 3 #105
If it eats away at you, try to let it go. You can't have their hate consume your soul. Don't let them win another CTyankee Jul 3 #106
When they ask for redemption edhopper Jul 3 #107
Forgive them, Lord; they know not what they do. maxsolomon Jul 3 #108
I have yet to see one repent. Not one. themaguffin Jul 3 #109
Not in this life time randr Jul 3 #110
The thing is, we don't forgive people for their benefit; we forgive to keep ourselves free of resentment and hate. Magoo48 Jul 3 #111
Luckily wryter2000 Jul 3 #112
No Hey Joe Jul 3 #113
Fuck NO!!! FoxNewsSucks Jul 3 #114
Sure. madamesilverspurs Jul 3 #115
Idiots who voted for trump can not easily be forgiven LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #116
No and I will never forgive them kimbutgar Jul 3 #117
NO bdamomma Jul 3 #118
You Want Forgiveness?? Mr.Bee Jul 3 #119
No forgiveness. I'll dance on their graves, though. Does that count? Oopsie Daisy Jul 3 #121
Not until the last MAGA and their collaborators choie Jul 3 #122
I want them to all drop dead EnergizedLib Jul 3 #124
No, no matter what I tried to say or do, Zilch. Paper Roses Jul 3 #125
No. Not even my own children. They knew what he was, and what it would cost me... mucholderthandirt Jul 3 #126
Nope! I may not know who did now...but... MiHale Jul 3 #127
NO jrthin Jul 3 #128
No La Coliniere Jul 3 #129
No, not this time DFW Jul 3 #130
NEVER!!! They have destroyed this country, happily, joyfully, willingly. niyad Jul 3 #131
No. MuseRider Jul 3 #133
I can't forgive those The Wizard Jul 3 #134
No. moondust Jul 3 #135
HELL to the NO IzzaNuDay Jul 3 #136
I have no right-wingers in my life...I broke ties with them decades ago, just as I stopped eating fast-food... pecosbob Jul 3 #137
Nope PlanetBev Jul 4 #139
No angrychair Jul 4 #140
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