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Abolishinist

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4. Interesting. I entered the same 'speech, and although I didn't mention his name Chat GPT made the connection.

Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:14 PM

Jul 4

PSYCHOLOGICAL & POLITICAL SUBTEXT

1. Narrative Control:

• Trump reframes a chaotic presidency and disputed loss as part of a larger, mythic struggle against evil forces.

• By inserting achievements (Olympics/World Cup) into that narrative, he shifts attention from policy failures to symbolic victories.

2. Historical Distortion:

• The actual processes for hosting the Olympics and World Cup are complex, involving years of lobbying by cities, not solely presidential action.

• His statements oversimplify and distort this to create a personal legacy of “wins.”

3. Deliberate Chaos:

• The lack of coherence is not necessarily accidental — it overwhelms fact-checkers and fosters emotional connection over logical argument.

• This "flood the zone with nonsense" approach keeps his base engaged while frustrating critics.

CONCLUSION

This speech is less about factual accuracy and more about mythmaking. Trump weaves a narrative of personal triumph, unjust persecution, and righteous vindication, all while maintaining a casual, populist tone. Though chaotic and self-contradictory, the speech serves to:

• Reinforce loyalty among his base,

• Undermine institutional trust (media, elections),

• Cast his leadership as unique and irreplaceable.

It’s not a policy speech, but a performance — part grievance rally, part hero’s journey, with all roads leading back to Trump as the indispensable protagonist.

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Chat GPT analyzed Trump's speech. The conclusion was spot-on! [View all] mainer Jul 4 OP

Wow, that's the orange piece of shit perfectly. a kennedy Jul 4 #1

When a COMPUTER can recognize it... NCDem47 Jul 5 #56

Can't, won't are two different issues. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 5 #59

This is clinically quite accurate. Irish_Dem Jul 4 #2

In a normal world DENVERPOPS Jul 4 #11

Evaluating him in the ER would be a no brainier. Irish_Dem Jul 4 #16

Not really. returnee Jul 4 #36

What's incomprehensible to me is that tens of millions love and follow him. yardwork Jul 4 #21

Yes, the biggest mystery is why so many people adore a ruthless psychopath. Irish_Dem Jul 4 #24

People always have followed psychopaths.. That is why they are such great conmen. Something about their LiberalArkie Jul 4 #27

Interesting point. yardwork Jul 4 #31

I think I answered my question downthread, ironically with the help of AI. yardwork Jul 4 #29

"the biggest mystery is why so many people adore a ruthless psychopath" Wiz Imp Jul 4 #39

Yes PutinGOP have been using a very sophisticated psy-ops propaganda war against the US. Irish_Dem Jul 4 #40

It's pretty clear a lot of people admire ruthlessness, as long as it's turned on the people they've chosen to hate. eppur_se_muova Jul 5 #60

The sight of all those people laughing it up electricmonk Jul 4 #44

Assholes Gonna Love Assholes lavoosh99 Jul 4 #45

Bingo! OldBaldy1701E Jul 5 #53

No one needs a chatbot trained on stolen intellectual property to analyze Trump. And the guy who asked highplainsdem Jul 4 #3

I didn't see that as the point of the exercise. yardwork Jul 4 #22

ChatGPT isn't intelligent, period. It's cobbling together other analyses of Trump. highplainsdem Jul 4 #23

I didn't say it was. But it chose an interesting angle to cobble together. yardwork Jul 4 #26

lol chatgpt isn't unbiased WhiskeyGrinder Jul 4 #30

I realize that. yardwork Jul 4 #32

"unbiased review?" Surely you're kidding. emulatorloo Jul 4 #33

Interesting. I entered the same 'speech, and although I didn't mention his name Chat GPT made the connection. Abolishinist Jul 4 #4

As I explained in reply 3, it was obvious from what was said that it was Trump. What was the highplainsdem Jul 4 #10

I was trying to make it very basic/generic, so I entered this Abolishinist Jul 4 #12

This is actually quite on-target. yardwork Jul 4 #25

It aslo touched on the 'mythical' in more detail, but I'll skip to the Summary. Spot on. Abolishinist Jul 4 #35

About AI Robertmiller1220 Jul 4 #5

Welcome to DU! PatSeg Jul 4 #6

Thanks Robertmiller1220 Jul 4 #7

Thank you PatSeg Jul 4 #8

Keep talkin' like that, Chat GPT and... 3825-87867 Jul 4 #9

Most of us realized the long ago. Martin68 Jul 4 #13

Most of us here must be sdfernando Jul 4 #14

Yes. THAT"S a real coverup by GOP and MSM. And a much much more dangerous one. nt wiggs Jul 4 #15

I could have told you that ten years ago! OMGWTF Jul 4 #17

Der Antichrist spake. B.See Jul 4 #18

Read the entire article karin_sj Jul 4 #19

I've gone from deep deep concern to true fear of what he can do. Dixiegrrrl Jul 4 #43

The whole thing is well worth the read Warpy Jul 4 #20

I'm Sorry, I'm not going to believe a computer program over analyzes by a human being. Jacson6 Jul 4 #28

Well it's an amalgamation of nearly all written knowledge. Lucky Luciano Jul 4 #46

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 4 #34

Those that fear A.I. will find it very hard to compete with. SalamanderSleeps Jul 4 #37

Oh guy's, double funny, my title for this post was supposed to be; "Those that ignore A.I. are doomed to repeat it." SalamanderSleeps Jul 4 #38

Those who are impressed by generative AI are being dumbed down by it. highplainsdem Jul 4 #41

Ouch, I guess I'll just take my Master's degree and shove it up my ass. SalamanderSleeps Jul 4 #42

The gist of your two posts was apparently this, from one of your prompts: highplainsdem Jul 5 #61

I work at felony daycare. SalamanderSleeps Jul 6 #62

Ask your AI about that. SalamanderSleeps Jul 6 #63

Chat GPT isn't telling us anything we didn't already know. Aussie105 Jul 4 #47

The megalomania should have been detected but it is accurate imho. live love laugh Jul 4 #48

I have had numerous discussions with ChatGPT, mostly not about politics--- but Jack Valentino Jul 5 #49

I had better things to do and did not watch his delusional ramble. appleannie1 Jul 5 #50

I also scoop 4 litter boxes daily..... LPBBEAR Jul 5 #52

What's with all this with Chat GPT? RandySF Jul 5 #51

Much as I hate AI, I have to rec this. Scrivener7 Jul 5 #54

Hey, we're as smart as AI! We've said the same for years. sinkingfeeling Jul 5 #55

"...but no clinical diagnosis can be responsibly made without a full assessment." 3catwoman3 Jul 5 #57

And yet the conservative majority on the Supreme Court Politicub Jul 5 #58