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Ms. Toad

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5. That's not the reason they will be fine.

Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:15 PM

Jul 6

The proposed interpretation is for births AFTER February 20. No one alive on the date the executive order was signed has anything to worry about.

But there is no guarantee that the Supreme Court will reject Trump's proposed interpretation. The key phrase is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" - the contention is that because the people in question are here without a legal right to be here, they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United states. That phrase has not been interpreted by the Supreme Court, so it is still open to interpretation.

I think the suggested interpretation is ludicrous - if they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States then the United States, then we can't prosecute them criminally for any offense (that's where your "children of foreign diplomats" comes in).

But even though I am a lawyer and know how these things work, I'm not on the Supreme Court.

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I need an explaination about birthright citizenship. [View all] Figarosmom Jul 6 OP

i've posted essentially the same question here before... ret5hd Jul 6 #1

I'm not a lawyer, but I've read the Amendment COL Mustard Jul 6 #2

That's not the reason they will be fine. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #5

Thank you, Counselor! COL Mustard Jul 7 #15

Read the executive order. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #3

So tbey create two different levels of citizenship Figarosmom Jul 6 #8

You should be fine if you are white, but if you are a white Dem, you are dead meat. Irish_Dem Jul 6 #10

The birthright citizen executive order has nothing to do with immigration. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #12

Today, I'm afraid, we would COL Mustard Jul 7 #16

I wonder if they would come after my daughters or my granddaughters. DFW Jul 6 #4

That's a different issue. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #7

Trump and the Supreme Court don't give a damn about the laws, statutes, constitution. Irish_Dem Jul 6 #11

They would have to at least pretend to change the law. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 6 #13

Right, the SC goes back to 17th century law to justify their crimes. Irish_Dem Jul 7 #18

One American parent is sufficient under current order LetMyPeopleVote Jul 10 #21

Doesn't matter. Trump will get rid of anyone for any reason. Irish_Dem Jul 6 #6

I think you're right. Figarosmom Jul 6 #9

Correct...... Bread and Circuses Jul 6 #14

If the SCOTUS did go ahead and change the Constitution... thought crime Jul 7 #17

First, it is literally their job to interpret the constitution. Ms. Toad Jul 7 #19

Maddow Blog-Trump's executive order restricting birthright citizenship blocked by federal judge LetMyPeopleVote Jul 10 #20