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Ms. Toad

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46. It is not a moot point.

Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:11 PM

Jul 6

Herding people into a gas chamber is, in most jurisdictions, first degree murder. Sending people to a miserable location which may, or may not, be in the path of a future hurricane is at most negligent homicide. They are different levels of intent.

And, more to the point, using the name of Auschwitz-Birkenau - the most deadly deadly concentration camps - offends those whose religious, cultural, and ancestors were murdered there.

While I am not willing to pretend there are not terrifying similarities between Trump and Hitler, or to avoid labeling the Florida concentration camp for what it is, I am also not willing to point those similarities out by using a name I have been told is offensive and that does not describe what is currently going on there.

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Why I will continue to call it Alligator Auschwitz instead of Alligator Alcatraz [View all] Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 OP

Same here malaise Jul 6 #1

It is a concentration camp mcar Jul 6 #2

Excellent Point My Friend, You sold me BOSSHOG Jul 6 #3

Had something to do with being convicted of a crime, indeed. Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #24

You're right. Making the switch now. Timeflyer Jul 6 #4

Gator Gulag works, too. Ocelot II Jul 6 #5

Has a nice ring to it MadameButterfly Jul 6 #7

I think I will go with this moniker. Once evidence of systematic death happens, I'll upgrade to the Auschwitz moniker. Lucky Luciano Jul 6 #18

Agreed. Gator Gulag is more accurate, as well. LauraInLA Jul 6 #27

This is brilliant and I predict it will become a thing MadameButterfly Jul 6 #6

I agree. They won't let Congresspersons in to inspect bronxiteforever Jul 6 #8

Putting your FEMA tax dollars to work. Gimpyknee Jul 6 #9

Like Auschwitz, the Florida concentration camp is filled with people of the "wrong" background DBoon Jul 6 #10

Concentration Camp. Death Camp. Yep, that's Auschwitz for real. Hekate Jul 6 #11

Were you on here before, Dixiegrrrl? PatrickforB Jul 6 #12

Thank you for remembering, Patrick. Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #17

Due process is the difference MaineBlueBear Jul 6 #13

This is what I have been calling it since the beginning, for exactly niyad Jul 6 #14

Same here! SheltieLover Jul 6 #21

Agreed. And they will all die in their cages when it inevitably floods (already did). We are down a depraved road. n/t Evolve Dammit Jul 6 #15

When I hear, "but there are no OVENS, where are the OVENS, it isn't a niyad Jul 6 #20

Not every Jew died in ovens,they were worked and starved to death Bengus81 Jul 6 #22

Thank you!!! niyad Jul 6 #25

As I recall, the ovens were to cover up the evidence of death from other means. n/t Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #30

And because cremation is against Jewish law Danmel Jul 7 #48

No Jews died in ovens. Behind the Aegis Jul 7 #53

Yeah, the cruelty and desire to punish/remove/imprison/kill others remains the same. Evolve Dammit Jul 6 #35

I had to block someone because of absurd denialism. Pacifist Patriot Jul 7 #49

One is almost tempted to ask them exactly what they are getting from niyad Jul 7 #54

Trump has exposed the many fascists lurking in our country. Their stain will remain for a long time to come. Joinfortmill Jul 6 #16

I agree it is a concentration camp - and I believe it is important that we accurately label it Ms. Toad Jul 6 #19

It's the first and will be a test case for many,many more. Bengus81 Jul 6 #23

After the first hurricane, that will be a moot point. And he's sending them there knowing that storm is coming. Scrivener7 Jul 6 #45

It is not a moot point. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #46

!00% agree. MuseRider Jul 6 #26

Agree kacekwl Jul 6 #28

I've been with you 100 BaronChocula Jul 6 #29

Sorry I missed that post. Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #32

So much gets lost in the shuffle BaronChocula Jul 6 #41

Excellant! Attilatheblond Jul 6 #31

Alcatraz Unlawful Detention Center Bluestocking Jul 6 #33

Same here. nt Ilsa Jul 6 #34

I sent Meidas a note BidenRocks Jul 6 #36

Good move...thank you. Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #39

I'm not Jewish so I won't comment except to share these links. markodochartaigh Jul 6 #37

Very helpful resources. Thank you so much. Dixiegrrrl Jul 6 #40

The new facility is not an extermination camp but this facility clearly meets the definition of a concentration camp LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #38

Notice no roads for evacuation, only small plane/chopper strip. dixiegrrrrl Jul 6 #42

Graphic for this atrocity. hay rick Jul 6 #43

This is good. If it's OK with you, I will steal that. Scrivener7 Jul 6 #44

Enough with the cute names LS0999 Jul 7 #47

I call it the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport maxsolomon Jul 7 #50

There is nothing cute about the names, or the intent. niyad Jul 7 #55

Maybe cute is the wrong word maxsolomon Jul 7 #56

Detention centers are concentration camps. usonian Jul 7 #51

This is what they voted for ... marble falls Jul 7 #52