Evangelical church urges Trump admin to 'execute' LGBTQ Americans

[TommyT139]

65. I agree that "Christian Nationalist" is a good catch-all.

A peculiar quirk of the trumpist manifestation of Christian Nationalism is that, while a large percentage of the base is protestant, a very influential core of the upper strata (financially, educationally, politically) is Roman Catholic: Steve Bannon, JD Vance, Samuel Alito, Leonard Leo, Marco Rubio, Sean Duffy, and many more, like Terry Schilling, president of the American Principles Project, which is the leading anti-gay, anti-trans coordination and funder group working to take rights away. (Edited to add) This ultra-conservative right wing of the Catholic Church is not the average person in the pew: they strongly opposed Francis and now Leo, based on social teachings and liturgy, which they prefer to hear in Latin.

Apart from "evangelical" being inaccurate, a reason I will keep challenging it when appropriate is that as we have seen with other segments of the US voting population, there are a lot of people in the middle. They are busy with life; they voted their wallets; they come from areas where "everyone" votes republican; they didn't see the use of voting.

Well, all of those people are up for grabs. And a lot of them are evangelical -- they read the Bible and see that Jesus commands us to care for the orphan, widow, stranger, the hungry ones, the sick ones. They go to churches where - as most do - the preaching is about life, and not in support of a political group. They go to churches where the organist is gay, someone has a trans kid, or those two ladies have been together forever.

Why in the world would we want to alienate those people by declaring that they are equal to the Trumpists destroying this country? All we have to do is speak more respectfully...and yet some people simply refuse to do that, perhaps because they hold onto their own painful history -- which is real, and legitimate -- and assume that's everyone's truth.

I am not saying you are doing that, but in figuring out how to get the Trumpists out of power, it makes no sense to repeat the rhetorical mistakes that helped us get here in the first, and then second, place.