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soldierant

(8,838 posts)
42. It's a good question.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 09:59 PM
Jul 7

I received this today -

https://johnpavlovitz.substack.com/p/when-the-hell-did-empathy-become

On the one hand, I have to agree with Comment #24 that the right side of history is outnumbered by the wrong side - and the examples are extremely telling.

On the other side, I've seen (and this was year ago) experiments done with children under the age of three put into a room with someone (or even some animal) was struggling with something - and the tendency of the children to help the struggler was virtually universal.

Where does that go when we grow up? I think we are influenced out of it for the most part. And not even necessarily with bad intentions.

"Enabling" someone self destructive to stay on that path is a real thing, But avoiding it can be overdone. "Tough love" is also a real thing, but if it isn't founded on genuine love (and I suspect you can tell that easily - if it doesn't hurt you to do it, it isn't real love) then all it is is tough.

Parents and teachers are not always to blame - if you look at people like Stephen Miller, Paul Gosar, RFK Jr, all their families are at odds with them and a big chunk of that is really about empathy.

Also, all these people in MAGA have grievances. They all feel they hve been cheated out of something that is rightfully theirs, something has been stolen from them. What is that something? For many it is white supremacy, but that can't be true for all, and it's probably not the only thing even for whites. Gender identity is another thing they may feel is being stolen from them simply by non-binary identities' existence. Whatever ir is, it's generally something they can't put into words because that would require way too much self-knowledge.

In reality, they are all being used by people who want them to have those grievances because they can be led to do just about anything if they are aggrieved enough. And throughout history, there always have been people who are adept at using them and also at getting into power one way or another.

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Thanks Kentuck... spanone Jul 7 #1
Their darkest fantasies are realized by him dalton99a Jul 7 #2
They like him because he is like them. kentuck Jul 7 #3
Trump appeals to the darkest side of human nature. Irish_Dem Jul 7 #4
There is no room for compromise. kentuck Jul 7 #5
I agree. Going to the dark side with them is not an option. Irish_Dem Jul 7 #6
Crude depravity... 3catwoman3 Jul 7 #21
"Compromise" is the nastiest word in the dictionary to these maga types. slightlv Jul 7 #27
They are blinded by hate and lies newdeal2 Jul 7 #7
They're a KKKult of ignorant racist fuckheads Orrex Jul 7 #8
KKKult of Personality. The object only has shiny sides. mjvpi Jul 7 #18
Yes. Yet they will be the most furious when it happens to them. Scrivener7 Jul 7 #9
I feel a bit like the frog swimming with the scorpion on his back. nt Prairie_Seagull Jul 7 #10
Couldn't Have Said It Better! Mr.Bee Jul 7 #11
Amen lamp_shade Jul 7 #12
I agree 100% but I am constantly being told we have more in common Boomerproud Jul 7 #13
We do not... GiqueCee Jul 7 #38
He has made Hate socially acceptable RainCaster Jul 7 #14
Truth 3auld6phart Jul 7 #15
Someone said... Escape Jul 7 #16
He drowns their children Turbineguy Jul 7 #17
Interesting thoughts Tadams01KC Jul 7 #19
He "tells it like it is" means he talks simply like a guy at the end of the bar... haele Jul 7 #34
There's a psychological term that defines why and how they feel the way they do about Trump. kentuck Jul 7 #36
It's a cult. (nt) Heidi Jul 8 #48
He claims to be Christian Mtnmama Jul 7 #20
They are willing to accept the huddled death of children...for the price of Tikki Jul 7 #22
It's coexistence with people like that possible? LS0999 Jul 7 #23
One thing for us to keep in mind is that from a historical perspective, we are the outliers. Ol Janx Spirit Jul 7 #24
Well said. GiqueCee Jul 7 #39
Yup republianmushroom Jul 7 #25
The death of the rule of law was the final straw for me... Moostache Jul 7 #26
Right there with you... slightlv Jul 7 #29
FEAR of "losing their country" Trumps all Martin Eden Jul 7 #28
What are you prepared to do about it OP? MakeThemCry Jul 7 #30
First of all... kentuck Jul 7 #33
That's a good start. MakeThemCry Jul 7 #35
Very well thought out, kentuck. democrank Jul 7 #31
My favorite sign from the June 14th protest: Radicalized by common decency OMGWTF Jul 7 #32
I agree and I think they have low standards for leadership Redleg Jul 7 #37
Now they are dying iemanja Jul 7 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Jul 7 #41
It's a good question. soldierant Jul 7 #42
Change the game RecoveringJournalist Jul 7 #43
You had me at "But, our side cannot accept that..." calimary Jul 8 #44
Ask, "Who did YOU vote for?". BigmanPigman Jul 8 #45
He actually tells it the way they would like. Kablooie Jul 8 #46
Probably right for many people Nasruddin Jul 8 #47
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