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RecoveringJournalist

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43. Change the game

Mon Jul 7, 2025, 11:10 PM

Jul 7

Democrats and progressives have long worked to do things the right way, the fair way, the honorable way. But in an America where Conservatives are winning by lying, cheating, bullying, threatening and controlling the narrative by speaking more loudly and more crudely, we must ask ourselves this question. Do we want to keep doing it the right way or do we want to win?

I feel it's time to take a page from the Conservative playbook and start playing dirty, playing to win.

We can't change America for the better if we don't at first win the vote. I say winning ugly, winning dirty, is ok AS LONG AS WE WIN. When we win, THEN we can do things the right way to fix America.

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Their side loves him for the same reason our side hates him. [View all] kentuck Jul 7 OP

Thanks Kentuck... spanone Jul 7 #1

Their darkest fantasies are realized by him dalton99a Jul 7 #2

They like him because he is like them. kentuck Jul 7 #3

Trump appeals to the darkest side of human nature. Irish_Dem Jul 7 #4

There is no room for compromise. kentuck Jul 7 #5

I agree. Going to the dark side with them is not an option. Irish_Dem Jul 7 #6

Crude depravity... 3catwoman3 Jul 7 #21

"Compromise" is the nastiest word in the dictionary to these maga types. slightlv Jul 7 #27

They are blinded by hate and lies newdeal2 Jul 7 #7

They're a KKKult of ignorant racist fuckheads Orrex Jul 7 #8

KKKult of Personality. The object only has shiny sides. mjvpi Jul 7 #18

Yes. Yet they will be the most furious when it happens to them. Scrivener7 Jul 7 #9

I feel a bit like the frog swimming with the scorpion on his back. nt Prairie_Seagull Jul 7 #10

Couldn't Have Said It Better! Mr.Bee Jul 7 #11

Amen lamp_shade Jul 7 #12

I agree 100% but I am constantly being told we have more in common Boomerproud Jul 7 #13

We do not... GiqueCee Jul 7 #38

He has made Hate socially acceptable RainCaster Jul 7 #14

Truth 3auld6phart Jul 7 #15

Someone said... Escape Jul 7 #16

He drowns their children Turbineguy Jul 7 #17

Interesting thoughts Tadams01KC Jul 7 #19

He "tells it like it is" means he talks simply like a guy at the end of the bar... haele Jul 7 #34

There's a psychological term that defines why and how they feel the way they do about Trump. kentuck Jul 7 #36

It's a cult. (nt) Heidi Jul 8 #48

He claims to be Christian Mtnmama Jul 7 #20

They are willing to accept the huddled death of children...for the price of Tikki Jul 7 #22

It's coexistence with people like that possible? LS0999 Jul 7 #23

One thing for us to keep in mind is that from a historical perspective, we are the outliers. Ol Janx Spirit Jul 7 #24

Well said. GiqueCee Jul 7 #39

Yup republianmushroom Jul 7 #25

The death of the rule of law was the final straw for me... Moostache Jul 7 #26

Right there with you... slightlv Jul 7 #29

FEAR of "losing their country" Trumps all Martin Eden Jul 7 #28

What are you prepared to do about it OP? MakeThemCry Jul 7 #30

First of all... kentuck Jul 7 #33

That's a good start. MakeThemCry Jul 7 #35

Very well thought out, kentuck. democrank Jul 7 #31

My favorite sign from the June 14th protest: Radicalized by common decency OMGWTF Jul 7 #32

I agree and I think they have low standards for leadership Redleg Jul 7 #37

Now they are dying iemanja Jul 7 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Jul 7 #41

It's a good question. soldierant Jul 7 #42

Change the game RecoveringJournalist Jul 7 #43

You had me at "But, our side cannot accept that..." calimary Jul 8 #44

Ask, "Who did YOU vote for?". BigmanPigman Jul 8 #45

He actually tells it the way they would like. Kablooie Jul 8 #46

Probably right for many people Nasruddin Jul 8 #47