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In reply to the discussion: Who wants Medicare For All? [View all]rog
(862 posts)24. re: Canadian VAT, via the Tax Policy Center
https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-canadian-experience-vat
In 1991, Canada implemented a 7 percent national value-added tax (VAT) to replace a tax on sales by manufacturers. The VAT was introduced by the Conservative party, which had concerns about industry competitiveness and the countrys fiscal situation.
Canada addressed distributional concerns by applying a zero rate to certain necessitiesincluding groceries, drugs, and rentand adding a refundable credit to the income tax. Transfer payments had been indexed for inflation and were highly progressive, further insulating against regressivity.
The Canadian VAT is completely transparent: it is listed separately on receipts and invoices just like sales taxes in the United States.
The Canadian experience also shows that a federal VAT can successfully coexist with either a VAT or a retail sales tax levied by subnational governments.
And the VAT in Canada has not been anything like a money machine. The standard VAT rate declined over time to 6 percent in 2006 and 5 percent since 2008. In 2020, VAT revenue comprised 13 percent of total tax revenues for Canada, far below individual income tax revenue (37 percent) and about the same as Social Security contributions (14 percent) and revenues from corporate income taxes and property taxes (12 percent each).
In both revenues and expenditures, the size of the Canadian federal government as a share of the economy has shrunk significantly since introduction of the VAT. General government tax revenue and spending in Canada has actually fallen as a share of the economy since 1991.
Updated January 2024
In 1991, Canada implemented a 7 percent national value-added tax (VAT) to replace a tax on sales by manufacturers. The VAT was introduced by the Conservative party, which had concerns about industry competitiveness and the countrys fiscal situation.
Canada addressed distributional concerns by applying a zero rate to certain necessitiesincluding groceries, drugs, and rentand adding a refundable credit to the income tax. Transfer payments had been indexed for inflation and were highly progressive, further insulating against regressivity.
The Canadian VAT is completely transparent: it is listed separately on receipts and invoices just like sales taxes in the United States.
The Canadian experience also shows that a federal VAT can successfully coexist with either a VAT or a retail sales tax levied by subnational governments.
And the VAT in Canada has not been anything like a money machine. The standard VAT rate declined over time to 6 percent in 2006 and 5 percent since 2008. In 2020, VAT revenue comprised 13 percent of total tax revenues for Canada, far below individual income tax revenue (37 percent) and about the same as Social Security contributions (14 percent) and revenues from corporate income taxes and property taxes (12 percent each).
In both revenues and expenditures, the size of the Canadian federal government as a share of the economy has shrunk significantly since introduction of the VAT. General government tax revenue and spending in Canada has actually fallen as a share of the economy since 1991.
Updated January 2024
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Sad thing is, a Pew Poll in 2023 showed 57% of population supports universal coverage, but 53% want private insurance.
Silent Type
Jul 12
#3
You might be interested in this article, re: Canadian healthcare from an American perspective.
rog
Jul 13
#31
Explain it to the 53% who still don't get it after decades. If we can't explain it to them,
Silent Type
Jul 13
#23
He never mentions Green Mountain Care, when Vermont tried a Medicare for All type plan but couldn't pay for it
betsuni
Jul 13
#7
Every other developed country has medical coverage for all... why is it only impossible for the US?
bsiebs
Jul 13
#8
Democrats have been trying for many decades. Clinton administration "Hillarycare," Obama ACA (zero
betsuni
Jul 13
#11
Anyone who doesn't want to continue to suffer until they die in a fascist hellhole where health, science, and quality of
Karasu
Jul 13
#13
It's not what the people want that matters in the US, it's what the oligarchs want.
raccoon
Jul 13
#14
Think that's best we'll ever get. If it's as good as we think/hope, people will quickly convert.
Silent Type
Jul 13
#26
I would like to see a Medicare system for all along with a Medicaid system that does not force hard working
in2herbs
Jul 13
#28