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151. I have a very high opinion of AOC

Mon Jul 14, 2025, 09:21 AM

Jul 14

She is sharp as a tack and tough, too.

I wish we lived in a world/country that she could be POTUS, but this isn't it.

I liked Kamala a lot, was all in for her and she did a great job overall.

But, the basic math you note was always a problem and it played out.

And, yes, her being unabashedly "left" is another electoral problem - decades of the right relentlessly demonizing the evil liberal boogyman. I mean, I know people who are mostly left who get sucked into it.

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What do you think of Gavin Newsom for 2028? [View all] zanana1 Jul 13 OP

He's got my vote. We NEED a fighter. Meadowoak Jul 13 #1

Baggage like Hillary or Obama? Or Biden? Not even. librechik Jul 13 #2

Right now, California has a bit of a bad reputation Haggard Celine Jul 13 #3

I think California has always had a reputation before Newsom became governor AZProgressive Jul 13 #7

For cons, California has always been the state to blame for anything bad. mwmisses4289 Jul 13 #48

Nixon and Reagan came from California SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #51

Well, that is true, but much more good has come from there than bad. mwmisses4289 Jul 13 #55

the good news is that California's reputation is readily fixable cadoman Jul 13 #108

He was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle. writerJT Jul 13 #4

That makes me wonder a lot about his judgment. milestogo Jul 13 #17

People change. Ever read about DU member's family members transitioning to full on maga? ... including spouses Bernardo de La Paz Jul 13 #33

Good point. Plus it was over 20 years ago. JanMichael Jul 13 #104

It was before she went crazy. BannonsLiver Jul 13 #137

👍 writerJT Jul 14 #143

My goodness! Many of us were once married to asshole Heidi Jul 14 #159

"Victims" writerJT Jul 14 #160

I prefer someone like AOC or Jasmine Crockett. Emile Jul 13 #5

Unfortunately Jilly_in_VA Jul 13 #6

This I agree with, and I agree with your preferred choices. Scrivener7 Jul 13 #10

I also pray for a woman president in my lifetime. Katinfl Jul 13 #13

I'm 52 JustAnotherGen Jul 13 #28

Pritzker's currently my top choice too. Newsom's baggage isn't great Arazi Jul 13 #66

Harris closed the gap between Biden's poll numbers and made it basically a 50/50 race AZProgressive Jul 13 #12

I think Beshear could be a very attractive candidate. lark Jul 13 #19

He would be a return JustAnotherGen Jul 13 #29

I LOVE Whitehouse, but unfortunately he's too old. No chance we nominate a septuagenarian who turns 80 in a 2nd term. Celerity Jul 13 #34

I absolutely agree....and it should be that way democratsruletheday Jul 13 #79

I also like Gov. Pritzker, but he needs to lose weight. phylny Jul 13 #70

as much as I want to disagree with this.... democratsruletheday Jul 13 #82

Hey, I WROTE it and I want to disagree! phylny Jul 13 #101

Do you enjoy losing elections? awesomerwb1 Jul 13 #38

No, that's why I prefer running someone left of center! Emile Jul 13 #40

Apparently you do enjoy losing elections awesomerwb1 Jul 13 #44

Back at you! Emile Jul 13 #49

What is so funny about losing elections? SoFlaBro Jul 13 #99

I have a very high opinion of AOC Cosmocat Jul 14 #151

gimme a BREAK...... democratsruletheday Jul 13 #83

Mind telling us your obvious reasons why? Emile Jul 13 #84

AOC, while very liberal, is amazing and friendly Polybius Jul 13 #134

Voters and donors like someone that's won at least RubyRose Jul 13 #85

Since 1789, 19 Members of the House have served as President of the United States. Emile Jul 13 #89

Garfield is the only one that went straight... PAMod Jul 13 #132

When did Trump win a state wide election? Emile Jul 13 #91

1880 GJGCA Jul 13 #97

Abraham Lincoln is another one. Emile Jul 13 #110

LOVE both of them, but I'm not sure they're qualified to be president YET. still-prayin4rain Jul 13 #122

I'm with you on that!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 13 #128

Crockett would lose 45 states Polybius Jul 13 #133

I prefer having a chance to win elections. BannonsLiver Jul 13 #138

Me too, that's why I prefer someone left of center. Emile Jul 14 #149

What left of center candidates have won presidential elections? BannonsLiver Jul 14 #156

I'd vote for him happily if he won the primary, but he wouldn't be my first choice. Scrivener7 Jul 13 #8

No kacekwl Jul 13 #9

The choice to me is obvious kacekwl Jul 13 #11

Pete Buttigieg markie Jul 13 #31

He won't get the African-American or Hispanic male vote. SKKY Jul 13 #43

strange how they were ready for a multi-felon con man rapist fascist Skittles Jul 13 #113

Buttigieg being gay sabbat hunter Jul 13 #129

A mayor of a small town and former Secretary of transportation? fujiyamasan Jul 14 #148

Big Pete fan Cosmocat Jul 14 #152

I'm voting for Pete! pinkstarburst Jul 14 #154

I don't know if he'd have my support in the primaries EnergizedLib Jul 13 #14

2028 is not yet on my radar. 2026 is. DFW Jul 13 #15

This! JustAnotherGen Jul 13 #30

I look forward to a robust primary. May the best fighter win! Intractable Jul 13 #16

I'd happily vote for him if he is our candidate. lark Jul 13 #18

I don't think anyone from California could win in a national election. I would vote doc03 Jul 13 #20

No thank you. Nanjeanne Jul 13 #21

He wants to be president so bad he can taste it. Fiendish Thingy Jul 13 #22

Beshear is good but I don't even know who Murphy is. comradebillyboy Jul 13 #94

Chris Murphy has been one of the most articulate outspoken Dem senators Fiendish Thingy Jul 13 #98

Agree. choie Jul 13 #120

No. n/t valleyrogue Jul 13 #23

Not my first choice. Ferrets are Cool Jul 13 #24

It's going to be a toppling of a Regime JustAnotherGen Jul 13 #25

I'd certainly vote for him if he's the nominee rollin74 Jul 13 #26

He's my guy SuzyandPuffpuff Jul 13 #27

I like him, too Agent Orange Tabby Jul 18 #163

Newsom TnDem Jul 13 #32

Slick and political, yes. Far left, no. Ms. Toad Jul 13 #69

Authoritarian TnDem Jul 13 #75

I think 2028 is too far away to worry about. Let's see if we survive Trump's Autumn Jul 13 #35

And let's see if we can flip EmmaLee E Jul 13 #106

Nope Blue_Adept Jul 13 #36

I'd vote for him without hesitation. comradebillyboy Jul 13 #37

Hope not. awesomerwb1 Jul 13 #39

If the election was today...I'd vote for him... MiHale Jul 13 #41

Sure! And Pritzker and Buttigieg and Beshear and Shapiro... Arazi Jul 13 #42

For all of his flaws, he is far better than any republican. CTyankee Jul 13 #45

I'm voting for the Democratic nominee. Aristus Jul 13 #46

I'm thinking about 2026, not 2028. emulatorloo Jul 13 #47

He'll do. Lots of plusses, few minuses. Ping Tung Jul 13 #50

I was hoping for newsome when Biden pulled out oldmanlynn Jul 13 #52

So was I Agent Orange Tabby Jul 18 #165

Depends on who runs in the primary SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #53

You realize participating in message board speculation is non-binding, right? TheProle Jul 13 #95

Sure SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #102

I'll vote for whoever the Democratic presidential candidate is in 2028. Paladin Jul 13 #54

but I'm finding it hard to get information on his past ILikePie92 Jul 13 #56

My husband pisses me off regularly Agent Orange Tabby Jul 18 #166

Yes, totally right ILikePie92 Jul 18 #168

Prefer Senator for this one, POTUS is only 8 years, maybe. Brainfodder Jul 13 #57

I think that would be a mistake. David__77 Jul 13 #58

Baggage? Mike Nelson Jul 13 #59

The thing about baggage LogDog75 Jul 13 #107

True... Mike Nelson Jul 13 #118

Not in my top 50 for 2028 krawhitham Jul 13 #60

He Is My Governor And I Support Him the_liberal_grandpa Jul 13 #61

I prefer Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland. Emile Jul 13 #62

Love him. He could be our first Jewish President! CTyankee Jul 14 #157

Go for it. With Pennsylvania governor as veep. OLDMDDEM Jul 13 #63

NO. Not "outsidery" enough leftstreet Jul 13 #64

I'm from California. haele Jul 13 #65

YESSSS! Granny Blue Jul 13 #88

Newsom has piecemealed CEQA rollbacks and recently signed legislation for a major CEQA rollback. PufPuf23 Jul 13 #111

Exactly. Not saying he's a lesser of two evils, just that there's better haele Jul 13 #115

excellent analysis Skittles Jul 13 #114

Fine by me. Iggo Jul 13 #67

My first choice is whoever the hell can WIN. 3catwoman3 Jul 13 #68

Far from my first pick Greg_In_SF Jul 13 #71

NO -eom vanessa_ca Jul 13 #72

If Newsom is the nominee in 2028, he'll have my vote peggysue2 Jul 13 #73

He'd be a terrific president BannonsLiver Jul 13 #74

Luv my Guv! He calls 'em as he sees 'em. poli-junkie Jul 13 #76

Newsom pamdb Jul 13 #77

Well that settles it then... BannonsLiver Jul 13 #139

I'm pretty worried about 2028 pinkstarburst Jul 13 #78

WHO are those 'getting shot down?' elleng Jul 13 #125

To answer your question, I DON'T. Emile Jul 13 #80

Unsure if my first choice.. mvd Jul 13 #81

Newsome in in the running for my vote LetMyPeopleVote Jul 13 #86

All talk, no action! Granny Blue Jul 13 #87

I think he would be great! We need to see flamingdem Jul 13 #90

I think it's like 2.5 years too soon for this topic 0rganism Jul 13 #92

He can't win in the general. creeksneakers2 Jul 13 #93

It's so early but I trust him right now and a few others Tribetime Jul 13 #96

He's a no lovesfruit Jul 13 #100

Sorry to say, we have to take back the presidency no matter what Bayard Jul 13 #103

It will be 24/7 ads about "French Laundry". Hypocrite will be the messaging. JanMichael Jul 13 #105

If that's the best they've got he'll he just fine. BannonsLiver Jul 13 #140

I doubt that's all. And it was not adorable. It was dickish. JanMichael Jul 14 #150

Yeah I don't agree that the French Laundry is relevant or would cost him primary or GE voters. BannonsLiver Jul 14 #155

If dick move over 5 star dining disqualifies him Agent Orange Tabby Jul 18 #167

I'm for him because he can win. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 13 #109

Yes, agree with this. Who can win has to be top priority. still-prayin4rain Jul 13 #124

I would like to see him take a really forceful stand against Trump.. AntiFascist Jul 13 #112

Far too early to read the terrain Torchlight Jul 13 #116

Will there even be an election in 2028? dlk Jul 13 #117

He is running Johonny Jul 13 #119

My choices: Beshear, Buttigieg, Pritzker, Newsom elleng Jul 13 #121

I like him. I'm a little afraid he won't meet the far left's purity tests though. still-prayin4rain Jul 13 #123

Many/most would probably meet tests of elleng Jul 13 #127

Let's have a primary and let him prove it JCMach1 Jul 13 #126

Pete Buttigieg (nm) mikewv Jul 13 #130

Ever dating kim Guiyfoile should be an automatic disqualifier for elected office SSJVegeta Jul 13 #131

Not just dated but married her. 😵 nt Raine Jul 14 #147

This thread a perfect example of Democrat circular firing squad Bobstandard Jul 13 #135

Yes, it's odd to see supposed Democrats completely buy into GOP narratives about CA. BannonsLiver Jul 14 #141

Beshear might actually carry Kentucky due to his popularity here Wanderlust988 Jul 13 #136

Last I heard he opposed USSC expansion. carpetbagger Jul 14 #142

He'd get my enthusiastic vote. oasis Jul 14 #144

Possibly. H2O Man Jul 14 #145

This Califorian says NO thanks. nt Raine Jul 14 #146

Nope. Dems better give us better options, or we'll lose. Not that we'll probably have voting... mucholderthandirt Jul 14 #153

I'm wondering about voting in 2028. zanana1 Jul 15 #161

Just as long as it's not Fetterman! Jilly_in_VA Jul 14 #158

Put a Whitehouse in the White House! Totally Tunsie Jul 16 #162

No thanks Luciferous Jul 18 #164

As a Californian who has traveled a lot... WarGamer Jul 18 #169