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21. Maddow Blog-Targeting a critic, Trump claims a power he does not have in new authoritarian move
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jul 14

When an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it’s best not to look away.

Targeting a critic, Trump claims a power he does not have in new authoritarian move

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(@gypsydaveh.bsky.social) 2025-07-14T16:06:28.680Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/rosie-odonnell-trump-threatens-citizenship-power-rcna218623

NBC News reported on Saturday that Donald Trump threatened to take away comedian Rosie O’Donnell’s U.S. citizenship — because he doesn’t like her. The message he posted to his social media platform read in part:

Because of the fact that Rosie O’Donnell is not in the best interests of our Great Country, I am giving serious consideration to taking away her Citizenship. She is a Threat to Humanity, and should remain in the wonderful Country of Ireland, if they want her.


.....To hear Trump tell it, O’Donnell used speech he found objectionable, which has led him to give “serious consideration” to stripping the comedian of her U.S. citizenship. Implicit in the statement is the president’s apparent belief that he has such power.

He does not. As NBC News’ report noted, Trump cannot legally take away Americans’ citizenship because that presidential authority simply doesn’t exist.

Amanda Frost, an expert on citizenship law at the University of Virginia School of Law, told The New York Times, “In 1967, the U.S. Supreme Court declared in Afroyim v. Rusk that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment bars the government from stripping citizenship, stating: ‘In our country the people are sovereign and the government cannot sever its relationship to the people by taking away their citizenship.’”

Trump, however, doesn’t appear to understand this — or more to the point, doesn’t seem to care. An American citizen criticized him in ways he did not like, leading him to believe he should consider taking away his critic’s citizenship, as if this were somehow normal in our constitutional system.

It comes against a backdrop of Trump threatening to deny funding to cities that govern in ways he doesn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump threatening to prosecute a news organization for running reports he didn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump musing publicly about arresting a Democratic candidate he doesn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump floating the possibility of deporting American citizens. Which came on the heels of Trump endorsing the arrest of a Democratic governor who has opposed the White House’s agenda. Which came on the heels of Trump ordering a Justice Department investigation into his Democratic predecessor without cause.

And that’s just from the last month or so.

The idea of two prominent public figures engaging in some kind of “feud” is forgettable, but when an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it’s best not to look away.

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Stand with Rosie [View all] SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 OP
STANDING UP FOR DECENCY Skittles Jul 13 #1
How weak in mind is fuck head. Duncanpup Jul 13 #2
all strong women are Skittles Jul 13 #4
I'm with you on this statement 100% Duncanpup Jul 13 #5
Democratic men are the best Skittles Jul 13 #20
I stand with her!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 13 #3
I ❤️ Rosie blubunyip Jul 13 #6
She means what she says and ChazII Jul 13 #10
They can destroy each other. writerJT Jul 13 #7
I doubt this results in anyone's desctruction. Torchlight Jul 13 #8
Yeah, I probably should have said writerJT Jul 13 #9
Thank god FDR didn't think like that SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #14
What's your best case scenario here? writerJT Jul 13 #15
I stand with Rosie SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #16
Thank you for your service. writerJT Jul 13 #18
You're very welcome SocialDemocrat61 Jul 13 #19
She knows shit when she sees it. twodogsbarking Jul 13 #11
"" AllaN01Bear Jul 13 #12
Love her SuzyandPuffpuff Jul 13 #13
Legal analysis from Professor Vladeck on trump's ability to strip Rosie of her US Citizenship LetMyPeopleVote Jul 13 #17
Maddow Blog-Targeting a critic, Trump claims a power he does not have in new authoritarian move LetMyPeopleVote Jul 14 #21
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