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betsuni

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84. The screaming about Democratic supporters thinking Democrats are perfect is projection or something like that.

Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:24 PM

Jul 14

I noticed it in 2016 when conspiracy theories, disinformation, lies about a Democrat or Democrats were posted and a normal rational Democratic person would easily debunk it, resulting in vicious personal attacks ending in WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE PERFECT? Of course this silly thing is still around, like making everything into moral purity tests which of course Democrats always fail because the accusers have no idea or totally ignore what that Democrat has or is doing.

Obviously no normal rational person ever thinks anyone's perfect. They don't have a habit of cultish idolized worship. Those projecting constantly accused normal rational Democrats of marching in lockstep, toeing the line, being in a cult, blind allegiance, worshiping, being rah rah cheerleaders, hive mind, pay fealty, genuflecting and so on. Their only creative outlet seems to be insulting Democrats.

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Obama's blunt message for Democrats: 'Toughen up' [View all] TheProle Jul 14 OP

Yes mimitabby Jul 14 #1

I might be wrong but I think he meant politicians as much Tribetime Jul 14 #50

We have protested a lot. We made a lot of calls. Anything else? Autumn Jul 14 #2

what else to do jaymac Jul 14 #3

I don't live in Arizona Autumn Jul 14 #5

You asking me, or President Obama? TheProle Jul 14 #4

Post removed Post removed Jul 14 #8

Perhaps Obama is aiming at a few high level dems TBF Jul 14 #14

Perhaps you are more privy to the inner workings of senior figures of the Democratic party than Barack Obama is. tman Jul 14 #17

I'm sure that every elected Democrat will be just fine. nt Autumn Jul 14 #20

It's not just about every elected Democrat, but the party as a whole.. tman Jul 15 #95

... vanlassie Jul 14 #53

This. Noodleboy13 Jul 14 #56

video-audio Jack Valentino Jul 15 #90

Sounded to me like he was talking to media pundits & ostensible leaders, not to rank & file already marching Hekate Jul 14 #40

I can think of some off the top of my head. yardwork Jul 14 #54

Really? mcar Jul 14 #63

Nobody is perfect, I don't expect them to be perfect. Even if you think they are. nt Autumn Jul 14 #69

I don't either mcar Jul 14 #70

True SocialDemocrat61 Jul 14 #73

And the "why aren't Democrats doing x y z" posts mcar Jul 14 #74

The screaming about Democratic supporters thinking Democrats are perfect is projection or something like that. betsuni Jul 14 #84

He's referring to Democratic politicians synni Jul 14 #68

oooh I see what you did there, choie Jul 14 #77

Message was directed to Democratic elected office holders. the people who are so supposed to be representing us. msfiddlestix Jul 14 #81

What, no more "when they go low we go high"? awesomerwb1 Jul 14 #6

Should have been: "When they go low, we kick them in the balls and shove their faces in the dirt" dalton99a Jul 14 #11

Time to punch back and sucker punch them at every moment Historic NY Jul 14 #19

When they go low we kick them in the teeth Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 14 #27

Howz that "when they go low..." going? poli-junkie Jul 14 #7

You might want to ask his wife, since she's the one who said it. BannonsLiver Jul 14 #22

"Don't boo - vote!" poli-junkie Jul 14 #23

Yeah. And? BannonsLiver Jul 14 #25

It's the same sentiment as Michelle's. poli-junkie Jul 14 #28

So your point is that performative things like booing are just as important as voting. BannonsLiver Jul 14 #32

Obama's "Don't boo" admonition poli-junkie Jul 14 #36

"Don't agonize, organize" is the other part of what he consistently said Hekate Jul 14 #43

Seems like it does rep most, now Hornedfrog2000 Jul 14 #51

Obama and Biden were ready to move on the Russian election interference, iirc... Hekate Jul 14 #57

Well said! mcar Jul 14 #65

It's amazing after all we've been through, even in the midst of trump, there are still folks who show up... Hekate Jul 14 #71

The "Dems suck" faction mcar Jul 14 #75

They kneecapped themselves. choie Jul 14 #78

Cool move. The GOP faction couldn't have had anything to do with it then. Hekate Jul 14 #80

... betsuni Jul 15 #91

And what were they booing for?... tman Jul 14 #44

I'm just saying: let people in poli-junkie Jul 14 #46

Fair enough but a lack of passion at Obama's speeches or any election he ran in was never an actual thing. tman Jul 14 #52

I felt soooo suppressed by Candidate Obama. Not Hekate Jul 14 #58

I don't like to be told not to boo. poli-junkie Jul 14 #61

Bless your heart. You just go ahead and boo our candidates -- Hekate Jul 14 #62

Not at our candidates! Booing at the Repukes! poli-junkie Jul 14 #72

hmm... Nah, sounds like pretty good advice to me. tman Jul 14 #35

A great phrase mcar Jul 14 #64

Better than "it doesn't matter how you vote as long as you vote"... Oopsie Daisy Jul 14 #39

Post Removed Oopsie Daisy Jul 14 #41

Thank you, President Obama. republianmushroom Jul 14 #9

Pedo TACO yankee87 Jul 14 #10

Wow people are still using the "when they go low" against the Obama's... tman Jul 14 #12

"When they go low, we go high" is a quote from Michelle's 2016 DNC speech. Autumn Jul 14 #13

Yes, I know it's from Michelle's speech, which is why I point out they are two different people. tman Jul 14 #15

There's always been an anti Obama element on DU. BannonsLiver Jul 14 #26

Falls Under The Heading Of... ProfessorGAC Jul 14 #49

The anti Obama element has been mcar Jul 14 #66

Amerika needs a third term president. FirefighterJo Jul 14 #16

"Obama should be a third term president" TBF Jul 14 #18

I had the honor FirefighterJo Jul 15 #88

I totally agree Abstractartist Jul 14 #21

Well, that "1 f'n vote" markodochartaigh Jul 14 #42

A Republican vote mcar Jul 14 #67

I agree BannonsLiver Jul 14 #24

Right. There's a limit to the value of making every special interest a top priority. Beartracks Jul 14 #29

With the greatest of respect for President Obama usonian Jul 14 #30

He was warning us about authoritarianism TheProle Jul 14 #33

The time for "thinly veiled" is over. usonian Jul 14 #48

How about don't kill OFA and backstab progressives...? JCMach1 Jul 14 #31

Obama is correct, we can't negotiate with terrorists Warpy Jul 14 #34

Profound thanks, Mr. President. (nt) Paladin Jul 14 #37

I wish he and Holder had gotten "tough" with the banksters who were responsible for the 2008 financial meltdown. jalan48 Jul 14 #38

+1 leftstreet Jul 14 #45

Beat me to it! 3825-87867 Jul 14 #47

He decided saving the economy from collapse and saving lives with getting health care passed more important. betsuni Jul 14 #85

It would be great to see President Obama and VP Harris out on the road, too. thought crime Jul 14 #55

Toughen up? By giving DNC money? I love Obama, but this is not the bold and courageous leadership we need from people KPN Jul 14 #59

Luv him, and he means well, but that was a tad hurtful for me. I'm buried in Repugs at the allegorical oracle Jul 14 #60

Reading a couple of comments here, boy is it obvious who does not like Democrats Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #76

Jesus Christ, the bashing of President Obama continues here Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #79

Jesus Christ? Didn't know Democrats were perfect! 3825-87867 Jul 14 #82

Spoken at a press-free private fundraiser. aocommunalpunch Jul 14 #83

What I said... stop with the B.See Jul 14 #86

I have to post this old Onion: betsuni Jul 15 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author tman Jul 15 #89

I'm disappointed, and frustrated. lees1975 Jul 15 #92

Most of his criticism were aimed at law firms, universities and yes party elites. tman Jul 15 #93

Was he talking to us, or the leadership? Because we've been tough, and speaking out. mucholderthandirt Jul 15 #94