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speak easy

(12,283 posts) Tue Jul 15, 2025, 11:51 AM Jul 15

The Democratic leaders who gave us the biggest victories, FDR and LBJ [View all]

were not nice guys. At those times of greatest division, you never heard them talking about healing the nation. They faced the greatest challenges: Ending the Great Depression and Segregation in the South. They were 'mean' - take no prisioners mean - bringing flamethrowers to a knife fight mean. IMO opinion, that is what we need now; Someone who will kick MAGA in the balls, and keep on kicking them when they are down until they can't get up again.

So, a mean streak. Gavin Newsom has it. Some others may too. But I do not want to hear about healing until the chemo is over, and a Dem AG has brought the MAGA Nazis to justice.

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The Democratic leaders who gave us the biggest victories, FDR and LBJ [View all] speak easy Jul 15 OP

They gave us the biggest victories for our country. Which are now being torn away. efhmc Jul 15 #1

"Which are now being torn away." speak easy Jul 15 #2

I like Newsom, though I don't think he's as tough as some here believe. tman Jul 15 #3

Newsom has a solid history with Latinos. speak easy Jul 15 #4

I agree with the sentiment. We Dems need a tough presidential nominee... brush Jul 15 #5

We need someone who is not only willing to knock them down Bettie Jul 15 #6

Biggest Democratic majorities in Congress, biggest victories. betsuni Jul 15 #7

Trump doesn't have that right now newdeal2 Jul 15 #8

"I welcome their hatred" Cirsium Jul 15 #9

And 4 years later he partnered with every one of them SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #17

There's an obsession with that speech as proof fighting and collecting enemies is the only Way of Progress. betsuni Jul 15 #22

True too many SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #24

There's one of those "Democrats should have FDR style policies" in this thread, as always, the ridiculous lie that betsuni Jul 15 #36

They also forget SocialDemocrat61 Jul 16 #37

Oh really? Cirsium Jul 15 #34

I know Cirsium Jul 15 #33

There's no Socialist Underground??? SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #35

I disagree that they "were not nice guys." Yes, they had to be tough. Yes, they had to fight long Wonder Why Jul 15 #10

Leaders derive their power from the people. WarGamer Jul 15 #11

We are not going to win back many young men with a woman. speak easy Jul 15 #18

So a Tim Ryan-ish dude... or Newsom? WarGamer Jul 15 #21

I don't know. Whoever wins the primaries. speak easy Jul 15 #25

Gavin Newsom For The People! For President! Donate! ancianita Jul 15 #12

Cory Booker has guts. Nt leftieNanner Jul 15 #13

You are absolutely correct. This is war and it must be fought like a war. flashman13 Jul 15 #14

Maybe some FDR style policies? leftstreet Jul 15 #15

The Great Depression and JFK's assassination SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #16

"do you want to crash the economy" speak easy Jul 15 #19

Because policies matter SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #23

So does the candidate who has to sell them, speak easy Jul 15 #26

True SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #28

"the situation in the country at the time" speak easy Jul 15 #31

Good thing SocialDemocrat61 Jul 15 #32

Every single person in this White House deserves jail time EnergizedLib Jul 15 #20

We do need someone with a mean streak Jilly_in_VA Jul 15 #27

It's not a mean streak we need, just someone who will enforce the law equally questionseverything Jul 15 #29

Capitulating/placating MAGA on human rights issues is not a mean streak. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #30