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Ms. Toad

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8. Still inexcusable - but there is a little more to the story.

Tue Jul 15, 2025, 11:54 AM

Jul 15

His medical injury was in October, and his doctors ordered him not to fly for 8-12 weeks. He was planning to leave December 8. The summary makes it seem like he had a fee days notice to seek an extension - when he actually had close to 8 weeks. It isn't clear when he started to seek an extension.

He agreed to be removed on December 17, while Biden was still president for a month . . . So this isn't all on Trump, despite the article focusing on Trump's default to detention over removal.

He referenced a minor engagement with police as the trigger for the initial ICE detention. No description as to what it was. I'm suspicious they is more to this story to have the Biden administration detain him, rather than just grant the voluntary removal.

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Irish tourist jailed by Ice for months after overstaying US visit by three days: 'Nobody is safe' [View all] cbabe Jul 15 OP

Go after the real criminals Blue Full Moon Jul 15 #1

Real criminals are scary. Not like the taco truck guy or flower seller lady. cbabe Jul 15 #6

They might get hurt. LiberalArkie Jul 15 #21

Real criminals might fight back. The proud boys who joined ICE are not that brave IronLionZion Jul 15 #24

Who benefits and how from the US being hated around the world? Irish_Dem Jul 15 #2

I wish the media was asking those questions. yardwork Jul 15 #15

The US Media works for the Putin/Trump GOP. Irish_Dem Jul 15 #17

Other countries have strict visa rules newdeal2 Jul 15 #3

True. But. Doctor said not to fly. Plus he had paperwork. Vicious bully tactics are causing US more harm than good. cbabe Jul 15 #4

So are you suggesting Biden was a vicious bully? Ms. Toad Jul 15 #12

Of course not. cbabe Jul 15 #13

You did read the article, Ms. Toad Jul 15 #18

ICE was taking their time awaiting Jan 20th IbogaProject Jul 15 #25

Got some evidence for this? Ms. Toad Jul 15 #28

IMHO if Capital can fly freely over borders ... Dave says Jul 15 #40

I agree (completely disconnected from whether capital can fly freely over borders) Ms. Toad Jul 15 #41

During the Biden administration, the ICE and DOJ was really Trumps. LiberalArkie Jul 15 #23

Right. The deep state. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #30

As a party and I believe why we loose is we try to out-Republican the Republicans. I think it we had our beliefs back LiberalArkie Jul 15 #35

I don't know that we would win everytime, but our values are fundamentally different. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #39

Also it's not about saving money. It's about putting money in jailer pockets. cbabe Jul 15 #10

How about just issuing a citation for visa overstays - For these specific situations tulipsandroses Jul 15 #16

He was put in in late December 2024 IbogaProject Jul 15 #42

They're making money off of people's misery. poli-junkie Jul 15 #5

He's lucky they didn't send him to El Salvador or South Sudan dalton99a Jul 15 #7

Still inexcusable - but there is a little more to the story. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #8

Beyond Stupid! Put Him on the No Entry List and on the Next Flight to Ireland. MineralMan Jul 15 #9

That initial decision was made in December 2024. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #14

In any case, the situation should never have occurred. MineralMan Jul 15 #19

I agree that it should absolutely have never occurred. Ms. Toad Jul 15 #31

I'm not coming back malaise Jul 15 #11

Good decision, I think. MineralMan Jul 15 #20

My brother is planning his wedding but the guest list might be short IronLionZion Jul 15 #26

I have spent many lovely holidays in the US with family and friends malaise Jul 15 #34

Cruelty is the point Botany Jul 15 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 15 #27

His girlfriend did not support the accusation of false imprisonment. chowder66 Jul 15 #33

Due process? Presumption of innocence? marble falls Jul 15 #36

Sounds like... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 15 #38

Odd angle. Torchlight Jul 15 #37

ICE misunderstood the term "black Irish". marble falls Jul 15 #29

White Guy Deep State Witch Jul 15 #32