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Rafi

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Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:30 AM Wednesday

The infuriating facet of the Epstein affair, for me, is the lack of an outcry about the cause of his death. [View all]

I don't GAS about the files and who is in there, except that anyone that did commit the rape or abuse of a child is held accountable by a court of law.

I never believed he committed suicide for several reasons, and the obvious factors that would lead to a more believable case of homicide are substantiated by the few facts that we do know based on a severely flawed criminal investigation.

I was disappointed to hear Lawrence refer several times on his show tonight about Epstein's suicide. Anyone that has made an attempt to study the circumstances surrounding his last day and the litany of supposed "security lapses", as well as the opinions of the the pathologist who conducted the autopsy and Micheal Baden, who observed it, realizes that this is the real coverup in the Epstein case. Baden is arguably the leading pathologist in the country and he concurred with the autopsy pathologist that homicide was a more likely cause of death than suicide. The so-called investigation was a farce. They did not even interview the other twelve inmates on the same tier as Epstein that night. The film produced is bogus and only points to more malfeasance.

I watched a very interesting and informative interview with Epstein's brother Mark by Don Lemon. The points raised regarding the federal investigation were often startling and appeared to be legitimate. This, at least for me, is where the most important crime and coverup have occurred and a new investigation needs to be initiated by congress.


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Recommended H2O Man Wednesday #1
Not enough evidence but that doesn't mean MadameButterfly Wednesday #5
The official story is a combo of negligence and incompetence and indifference, RockRaven Wednesday #2
Surprise. Our society is run by mafia rules. usonian Wednesday #3
"Wake up, sheeple." JoseBalow Wednesday #4
I think if there's any conspiracy, it is that he was 'allowed' to commit suicide. AZJonnie Wednesday #6
Some of your points can be refuted. Irish_Dem Wednesday #7
Okay, it's not impossible AZJonnie Wednesday #9
It would have been relatively simple. Rafi Wednesday #12
That's not accurate EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #13
Most of the he cameras were not functioning. The "raw" footage was not raw. Rafi Wednesday #14
I think there would be a way around some of your points. Irish_Dem Wednesday #17
No it sounds like you've watched too many movies EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #18
I do work on cold case crime scene staging. It is based on science, data, facts. Irish_Dem Wednesday #19
These points can be refuted as well. Irish_Dem Wednesday #16
My mistake, the only thing I've ever heard called a 'garrote' is the wire with the handles AZJonnie Wednesday #21
There is something called Threshold Bias. Irish_Dem Wednesday #20
Guesswork Rafi Wednesday #8
Lol, the only thing I said that was "guesswork" was speculating there could be a life insurance policy AZJonnie Wednesday #10
There are no "facts" from the Bill Barr investigation other than that he is dead. Rafi Wednesday #11
"He could just as easily not been despondent" AZJonnie Wednesday #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #22
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