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Irish_Dem

(72,440 posts)
7. Some of your points can be refuted.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 06:25 AM
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It would not be hard to stage a murder to look like a suicide. It is estimated that a small but significant
number of murders are staged as suicides. Certainly professional assassins have the ability to do this.

It is possible to murder someone with a garrote and make it look like suicide.

This is done by placing the victim on his stomach and then garroting the person similar to a hanging.
Then hang the person with the same garrote.

Also if there are two assailants, one person can quickly use chloroform to render the victim unconscious
prior to the garroting. There will be no defensive wounds. Note that to detect chloroform in a body the
autopsy must be immediately performed, and Epstein's autopsy was not done for over a day after his death.

It is obvious that top of the line assassins could stage a crime to look like suicide and fake out everyone.
This would confuse the pathologists and investigators doing the autopsy and crime scene evaluation.
Which is the entire purpose when a crime is staged.

And it is entirely plausible that the federal government was involved. Trump is a ruthless, vicious psychopath,
part of the Epstein sex trafficking ring. And was president of the US with a vested interest in keeping Epstein quiet.
Bill Barr also had links to Epstein who was hired by his father as a teacher, even though he had no college degree.
Epstein was known to be a child predator, and Bill Barr's father had to resign after he hired Epstein.

So we have motive, opportunity, means.

It would be quite naive to not at least consider all possibilities.

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Recommended H2O Man Wednesday #1
Not enough evidence but that doesn't mean MadameButterfly Wednesday #5
The official story is a combo of negligence and incompetence and indifference, RockRaven Wednesday #2
Surprise. Our society is run by mafia rules. usonian Wednesday #3
"Wake up, sheeple." JoseBalow Wednesday #4
I think if there's any conspiracy, it is that he was 'allowed' to commit suicide. AZJonnie Wednesday #6
Some of your points can be refuted. Irish_Dem Wednesday #7
Okay, it's not impossible AZJonnie Wednesday #9
It would have been relatively simple. Rafi Wednesday #12
That's not accurate EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #13
Most of the he cameras were not functioning. The "raw" footage was not raw. Rafi Wednesday #14
I think there would be a way around some of your points. Irish_Dem Wednesday #17
No it sounds like you've watched too many movies EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #18
I do work on cold case crime scene staging. It is based on science, data, facts. Irish_Dem Wednesday #19
These points can be refuted as well. Irish_Dem Wednesday #16
My mistake, the only thing I've ever heard called a 'garrote' is the wire with the handles AZJonnie Wednesday #21
There is something called Threshold Bias. Irish_Dem Wednesday #20
Guesswork Rafi Wednesday #8
Lol, the only thing I said that was "guesswork" was speculating there could be a life insurance policy AZJonnie Wednesday #10
There are no "facts" from the Bill Barr investigation other than that he is dead. Rafi Wednesday #11
"He could just as easily not been despondent" AZJonnie Wednesday #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #22
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