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meadowlander

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11. According to Aristotle the purpose of civilisation is to encourage people to be more virtuous and to lead good lives.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:28 AM
Jul 21

So there is a role in society in collectively promoting the morality, integrity and dignity of its members. One of the main tools it has to do this is by excluding (or otherwise imposing a social penalty on) people who refuse to conform to whatever is considered acceptable conduct in that society. People who fall afoul of this might call it "cancel culture" but it's just a way of denigrating and dismissing what is actually an essential function of civilisation.

So yes, I believe the mechanism that "cancel culture" is describing does exist but not in the sense that MAGAs mean when they usually use it.

I do also think that people can go overboard and misuse it (for example, where they decide that they are enforcing the correct morality and norms on someone but those are not in fact widely socially accepted and/or rationally defensible). But I think this is pretty rare compared with people who just get butthurt over being asked to behave like a decent person and then whine about it being "cancel culture" as a softer easier alternative to admitting they were wrong or making any effort to improve their behaviour.

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Define "Cancel culture" Fiendish Thingy Jul 21 #1
Thanks for commenting. Eko Jul 21 #2
If they lose their job and social network, that's a pretty good definition of being canceled Fiendish Thingy Jul 21 #4
If they lose their job or social network, whose fault is that? Eko Jul 21 #8
I don't think it's that straight-forward meadowlander Jul 21 #12
I think you misunderstand my position Fiendish Thingy Jul 21 #13
"Cancelling" has been painted as an unreasonable action on the part of the canceller. Scrivener7 Jul 21 #16
Publicly shaming or ostracizing individuals who violate... pat_k Jul 21 #3
Thanks, not supporting a person or group because you dont like what they are doing is just human nature. Eko Jul 21 #5
I think some people laughably think it's real. EllieBC Jul 21 #6
Boycotts have always been around Demovictory9 Jul 21 #7
Yes. Colin Kaepernick was a victim of it. Justice Brandeis Jul 21 #9
I dont agree with that. Eko Jul 21 #10
According to Aristotle the purpose of civilisation is to encourage people to be more virtuous and to lead good lives. meadowlander Jul 21 #11
Is that still a thing? mcar Jul 21 #14
In the past we could just remove our attention and money and admiration from disgusting people and no one would Scrivener7 Jul 21 #15
It's nothing more than what happens when the right wing feels the consequence of capitalism Torchlight Jul 21 #17
To the extent that there were things in our culture that OUGHT to be cancelled, Jack Valentino Jul 21 #18
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