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muriel_volestrangler

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188. About Defendant
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jul 28
Accused Last Name
Netanyahu
Accused First Name
Benjamin
Charges
Allegedly responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/defendant/netanyahu

The Chamber considered that there are reasonable grounds to believe that both individuals intentionally and knowingly deprived the civilian population in Gaza of objects indispensable to their survival, including food, water, and medicine and medical supplies, as well as fuel and electricity, from at least 8 October 2023 to 20 May 2024. This finding is based on the role of Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant in impeding humanitarian aid in violation of international humanitarian law and their failure to facilitate relief by all means at its disposal. The Chamber found that their conduct led to the disruption of the ability of humanitarian organisations to provide food and other essential goods to the population in need in Gaza. The aforementioned restrictions together with cutting off electricity and reducing fuel supply also had a severe impact on the availability of water in Gaza and the ability of hospitals to provide medical care.

The Chamber also noted that decisions allowing or increasing humanitarian assistance into Gaza were often conditional. They were not made to fulfil Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law or to ensure that the civilian population in Gaza would be adequately supplied with goods in need. In fact, they were a response to the pressure of the international community or requests by the United States of America. In any event, the increases in humanitarian assistance were not sufficient to improve the population’s access to essential goods.

Furthermore, the Chamber found reasonable grounds to believe that no clear military need or other justification under international humanitarian law could be identified for the restrictions placed on access for humanitarian relief operations. Despite warnings and appeals made by, inter alia, the UN Security Council, UN Secretary General, States, and governmental and civil society organisations about the humanitarian situation in Gaza, only minimal humanitarian assistance was authorised. In this regard, the Chamber considered the prolonged period of deprivation and Mr Netanyahu’s statement connecting the halt in the essential goods and humanitarian aid with the goals of war.

The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare.

The Chamber found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the lack of food, water, electricity and fuel, and specific medical supplies, created conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of part of the civilian population in Gaza, which resulted in the death of civilians, including children due to malnutrition and dehydration. On the basis of material presented by the Prosecution covering the period until 20 May 2024, the Chamber could not determine that all elements of the crime against humanity of extermination were met. However, the Chamber did find that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the crime against humanity of murder was committed in relation to these victims.

In addition, by intentionally limiting or preventing medical supplies and medicine from getting into Gaza, in particular anaesthetics and anaesthesia machines, the two individuals are also responsible for inflicting great suffering by means of inhumane acts on persons in need of treatment. Doctors were forced to operate on wounded persons and carry out amputations, including on children, without anaesthetics, and/or were forced to use inadequate and unsafe means to sedate patients, causing these persons extreme pain and suffering. This amounts to the crime against humanity of other inhumane acts.

The Chamber also found reasonable grounds to believe that the abovementioned conduct deprived a significant portion of the civilian population in Gaza of their fundamental rights, including the rights to life and health, and that the population was targeted based on political and/or national grounds. It therefore found that the crime against humanity of persecution was committed.

Finally, the Chamber assessed that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population of Gaza. In this regard, the Chamber found that the material provided by the Prosecution only allowed it to make findings on two incidents that qualified as attacks that were intentionally directed against civilians. Reasonable grounds to believe exist that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant, despite having measures available to them to prevent or repress the commission of crimes or ensure the submittal of the matter to the competent authorities, failed to do so.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges

Israel committing genocide in Gaza, say Israel-based human rights groups

Two leading human rights organisations based in Israel, B’Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights, say Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza and the country’s western allies have a legal and moral duty to stop it.

In reports published on Monday, the two groups said Israel had targeted civilians in Gaza only because of their identity as Palestinians over nearly two years of war, causing severe and in some cases irreparable damage to Palestinian society.
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“What we see is a clear, intentional attack on civilians in order to destroy a group,” said Yuli Novak, the director of B’Tselem, calling for urgent action. “I think every human being has to ask himself: what do you do in the face of genocide?”
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The destruction of the healthcare system alone makes the war genocidal under article 2c of the genocide convention, which prohibits deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group “in whole or part”, said its [Physicians for Human Rights] director, Guy Shalev.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-say-israel-based-human-rights-groups

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The fall of Israel [View all] EndlessWire Jul 27 OP
There are many Israelis and Jews worldwide who decry this biophile Jul 27 #1
Haven't seen any public protests here in the states. Have you? I've only seen how pro-Palestine protesters are ARRESTED Exp Jul 27 #70
Almost every Jewish person I know in real life has been protesting Israel for decades. yardwork Jul 28 #169
I said that they are not out protesting! With signs, in large organized groups. nt Exp Jul 28 #179
They certainly are! yardwork Jul 28 #181
That is inaccurate in so many areas while trying to create an argument that seems plausible. No one is buying it. We Exp Jul 28 #233
lol! You can't think of any example of how it's wrong? yardwork Jul 28 #240
Yes, and many were at the student protests that were banned and criminalized. Hope none of them are in jail.. AloeVera Jul 27 #74
Or at least some. enid602 Jul 28 #202
Many? OrangeJoe Jul 28 #159
The never ending problem in the Middle East. travelingthrulife Jul 28 #166
Not really true OrangeJoe Jul 28 #197
Ummm...not sure of that...just a few hundred miles up the road in Syria in WWI via the Ottoman Govt. LeftInTX Jul 28 #250
Pics of the Armenian Genocide? N/T AloeVera Jul 28 #251
Yes LeftInTX Jul 28 #252
You're casting a very wide net OrangeJoe Jul 29 #266
Armenia didn't exist back then! Palestinians and Armenians were part of the Ottoman Empire. LeftInTX Jul 29 #274
Interesting and informative OrangeJoe Jul 29 #279
I saw the polls and tend to agree with you. I follow the Times of Israel and have seen some of their polls. LeftInTX Jul 29 #280
Here's an interesting article: LeftInTX Jul 29 #282
Seems the establshent of Israel as a Jewsh state did it. The next thought that comes to mind... brush Jul 29 #278
I think it's more than that. Heck Egypt attacked Israel numerous times. LeftInTX Jul 29 #281
Perhaps just a return to the region by Jews from other lands after the war... brush Jul 29 #283
I don't trust any polls involving Netanyahu's government. yardwork Jul 28 #171
Not the case here OrangeJoe Jul 28 #198
First I hear that everybody in Israel is on board with Netanyahu, then... yardwork Jul 28 #239
Not sure what you are asking OrangeJoe Jul 28 #247
The government of Israel KT2000 Jul 27 #2
Why? RobinA Jul 28 #216
Well, maybe, but I am inclined to believe it started with the 3rd creature. :) Dan Jul 28 #220
Cold dispassion? iemanja Jul 30 #287
We need to stop the amount of our dollars given to Israel Duncanpup Jul 27 #3
You forgot to add Abortions... which are legal and funded by the government, which we fund. William Gustafson Jul 27 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jul 28 #168
It's important to check your sources and facts before you post Mossfern Jul 28 #186
We need to stop the billions in tax deals to billionaires. yardwork Jul 28 #184
Consequences for the obvious war crimes and ethnic cleansng will be felt for decades. brush Jul 27 #4
Why are Jews held responsible for the actions of Israel? sarisataka Jul 27 #7
Tradition JoseBalow Jul 27 #10
It's unfortunate, not fair, but Netanyahu's/IDF war crimes are seen by the world which notices... brush Jul 27 #12
I do not disagree with your evaluation of Netanyahu sarisataka Jul 27 #24
I see what you're saying. Perhaps it's because the US is complicit in supplying the weapons used by... brush Jul 27 #31
+ 100 the US supplied the weapons. nt cliffside Jul 27 #53
Wait, wait.... Mossfern Jul 28 #189
"Is the US now a Jewish nation?" What are you talking about? brush Jul 28 #205
The suggestion that the fabulously wealthy Arab nations need our help is laughable. yardwork Jul 28 #190
Nice summary of talking points. AloeVera Jul 28 #200
What talking points? yardwork Jul 28 #241
Ridiculous. Oil wealth does not buy them the superior US weapons that Israel uses to... brush Jul 28 #207
Israel doesn't have oil wealth. yardwork Jul 28 #242
Please. Stop degending ethnic cleansing, starvation and killing people daily who line up trying to get food and water. brush Jul 28 #243
Where in my posts did I defend what Israel is doing? yardwork Jul 28 #249
Your reply to my post. brush Jul 29 #262
The same is exactly true of us in the U.S. yardwork Jul 28 #185
I say none of that. Why would you think I would agree with that crap? brush Jul 28 #208
I think that one reason might be BadgerMom Jul 27 #21
Judaism is also a religion sarisataka Jul 27 #26
Isreel itself conflates. AIPAC conflates. The new definition of anti-semitism conflates. AloeVera Jul 27 #76
" Non-Israeli Jews really should look at their unwavering support for Israel" sarisataka Jul 27 #78
Not one mainstream US Jewish organization or leader spoke out during the war. AloeVera Jul 27 #112
This seems to fly in the face of what was said about the protests supporting the Palestinians sarisataka Jul 27 #114
Lol. I said mainstream. You know, those representing - the mainstream. n/t AloeVera Jul 27 #117
So we have changed the subject from "non Israeli Jews" sarisataka Jul 27 #122
Surely you know the meaning of mainstream and the role of leaders in a community? AloeVera Jul 27 #127
Thankfully, my generation overwhelmingly doesn't. vanessa_ca Jul 27 #132
That is so encouraging! AloeVera Jul 27 #137
*Every* action? Mossfern Jul 28 #192
Why do they need to? Violet_Crumble Jul 28 #244
They don't Mossfern Jul 28 #246
Let's talk about these 'purity tests' Violet_Crumble Jul 28 #253
OMG! Mossfern Jul 28 #254
I'm thinking...despite the fact that Israel Does Have a Mixed Population w Non-Jews it Still is The Jewish State, ... electric_blue68 Jul 27 #25
But it is wrong to hold all Muslims responsible for mcar Jul 27 #83
I never held all Muslims responsible for Islamic terrorists actions. I hold Netanyahu, and certain IDF troops... electric_blue68 Jul 27 #107
Israelis can be held responsible for the actions of their government Bettie Jul 27 #32
Not all Jews are Israeli sarisataka Jul 27 #40
I was speaking to my own opinions Bettie Jul 27 #43
True iemanja Jul 28 #157
Jews are not responsible for the actions of Israel but TomSlick Jul 27 #38
It is a unique cause and effect, wouldn't you agree? sarisataka Jul 27 #42
Of course. TomSlick Jul 27 #61
When you put it that way sarisataka Jul 27 #80
Antisemitism has existed for centuries. Jews have never brought it on themselves. TomSlick Jul 27 #109
You seemed to imply there was dual loyalty: sarisataka Jul 27 #110
The attacks against Muslims after 9/11 was wrong mcar Jul 27 #86
It's not at all difficult to say. It is self evident. TomSlick Jul 27 #111
No, this happened with Arabs after 9-11. Eko Jul 27 #79
IIRC, there was a lot of opposition to Islamophobia sarisataka Jul 27 #87
And there is a lot of opposition to antisemitism going on now as well. Eko Jul 27 #97
I wouldn't say a lot of opposition sarisataka Jul 27 #100
How many of our elected party members have not called out antisemitism? Eko Jul 27 #101
I don't know, do you have the numbers? sarisataka Jul 27 #106
Exactly what are basing your opinion on? Eko Jul 27 #113
I am basing my opinion on the number of times I read "Antisemitism is wrong" sarisataka Jul 27 #116
Of course antisemitism is wrong. Eko Jul 27 #118
I wish more could make that definitive statement sarisataka Jul 27 #120
I have seen people say that antisemitism is on the rise in part due to the actions of Israel against Gaza. Eko Jul 27 #125
This!!!! This is it in a nutshell. Well-analyzed and well-said! AloeVera Jul 27 #94
Some have iemanja Jul 30 #288
They shouldn't be EdmondDantes_ Jul 27 #54
Sure but those regular Isrealis are supporting the government in this genocide. erodriguez Jul 27 #130
Easy guess is the same reason that people who are "anti-Israel" are labeled as "anti-semetic" by Israelis. nt Exp Jul 27 #67
??? progressoid Jul 27 #71
I do recall the increase sarisataka Jul 27 #98
And why are Gazans not held responsible for the actions mcar Jul 27 #81
I looks like they are. Eko Jul 27 #103
Yeah they are being brutalized. Their homes are bombed erodriguez Jul 27 #131
Gazans, including children, are enduring collective punishment. thought crime Jul 28 #146
Israel itself conflates criticism of state actions with antisemitism... mike_c Jul 27 #104
Once again, why does the actions of Israel sarisataka Jul 27 #108
no, I don't believe so mike_c Jul 27 #126
They elected Netanyahu and continue to support his genocidal government. Lonestarblue Jul 28 #178
Americans elected Trump and continue to support his horrific border policies. yardwork Jul 28 #183
So "Jews" elected Netanyahu? sarisataka Jul 28 #204
It's completely unreasonable. yardwork Jul 28 #182
Awesome so we can blame all Muslims EllieBC Jul 27 #62
Go ahead if you want to, but it's pretty obvious that the attacks are connected to heinous war crimes against the Gazan brush Jul 27 #69
So you are fine with collective EllieBC Jul 27 #77
I dont think Brush is saying that at all. Eko Jul 27 #82
But it is people here mcar Jul 27 #88
But you were replying back to Brush. Not other people or liberals. Eko Jul 27 #92
Do what you want with your flawed premise. It doesn't change the facts... brush Jul 27 #128
Our complicity in this is horrifying, nauseating. snot Jul 27 #5
the pic Celerity Jul 27 #27
And I'll say again: snot Jul 27 #6
Are Jews responsible for the actions of Israel? sarisataka Jul 27 #8
It seems that some people believe so. Mossfern Jul 27 #14
No one here has said that. Eko Jul 27 #85
This is close Mossfern Jul 27 #90
Not even. Eko Jul 27 #95
CORRECT Skittles Jul 28 #151
that question begs this one/ Are we US citizens responsable for (some of) the effects of the bombs drop on Gaza Vthestate Jul 27 #15
Hells yes we are responsible. erodriguez Jul 27 #134
I spoke of Israel's responsiblity; but since you ask, snot Jul 27 #16
I was thinking not of Israeli Jews sarisataka Jul 27 #28
Well it isn't "Understandable".. It's Vicious, Cha Jul 27 #58
As we are seeing here on this thread mcar Jul 27 #93
I wouldn't use the word "understandable", "predictable" is better. . . Stargleamer Jul 28 #235
The difference being that no one here said the anti-Muslim hate was understandable mcar Jul 28 #248
well among responses listed here in this thread, DiverDave did say. . . Stargleamer Jul 28 #256
Didn't happen after Oct 7 mcar Jul 28 #257
There was literally celebration in the streets sarisataka Jul 29 #264
I believe it had to have been pre-planned mcar Jul 29 #267
It begs the question JustAnotherGen Jul 29 #275
It is chilling mcar Jul 29 #277
Are you for real?? Violet_Crumble Jul 30 #285
Understandable and tragically predictable, yes, snot Aug 3 #291
Its wrong. electric_blue68 Jul 28 #153
It IS understandable DiverDave Jul 28 #155
Out of curiosity, if there was sarisataka Jul 28 #173
Of course DiverDave Jul 28 #174
..To the extent that they support Netanyahu whathehell Jul 27 #34
They did not say that at all. Eko Jul 27 #84
Israelis are responsible for the actions of Israel. erodriguez Jul 27 #141
Do you say this in regards to Muslim EllieBC Jul 27 #63
Why are you speculating about opinions I've never expressed and that are not relevant to the OP? snot Jul 27 #75
Are Muslims responsible for the actions of Islamic terrorists like Hamas? mcar Jul 27 #91
A great OP malaise Jul 27 #9
I remember Donald Rumsfeld's question during the Iraq War? surfered Jul 27 #11
This goes beyond the October 7th attack and the current war on Gaza. lees1975 Jul 27 #13
Ah, but what about the Jewish people who were expelled from "Palestine" Mossfern Jul 27 #19
But why start at that point in history? whathehell Jul 27 #44
So you agree that Mossfern Jul 27 #49
Of course, as were the Caananites.. whathehell Jul 27 #64
Agree Mossfern Jul 27 #65
Your deflection means you approve of the Genocide Brenda Jul 27 #46
Bullshit Mossfern Jul 27 #48
So you say "bullshit" in response Brenda Jul 27 #55
It's all the reply Mossfern Jul 27 #57
I agree.. so there's that. Cha Jul 27 #66
So us Hungarians can go back to the Ural mountain region, claim it as our ancestral homeland AloeVera Jul 27 #50
That's not analogous Mossfern Jul 27 #52
It wasn't Balfour that physically drovebout the Palestinians, burned their villages etc AloeVera Jul 27 #59
Honestly? Mossfern Jul 27 #96
I did not say you condone it. AloeVera Jul 27 #121
I have spoken out Mossfern Jul 27 #129
Then there's things you can do that I can't do AloeVera Jul 28 #209
My rabbi and synagogue have official statements regarding Israel's right wing government Mossfern Jul 28 #211
Not sure how I would know that. AloeVera Jul 28 #212
Why do you think that Jewish people Mossfern Jul 28 #213
You too! AloeVera Jul 28 #214
Where are the Canaanites? The Philistines? Ping Tung Jul 27 #89
There was never a Palestine nor an Israel IbogaProject Jul 27 #60
Palestine is the regional name, it was not the name used for the political states that occupied the area. lees1975 Jul 28 #215
Thank you IbogaProject Jul 28 #218
Yes, the Jewish people were expelled from Palestine by the Romans, the biggest exile occurring after 70 A.D. lees1975 Jul 27 #133
The reality here is the religion that has affected the course of history. lees1975 Jul 27 #139
I think no one here is defending the Romans. thought crime Jul 28 #147
Who could have envisioned that imperialistic colonialism would lead to conflict? snot Jul 27 #22
This is not the best link, but the US State Dept and Trumans advisors did vanessa_ca Jul 27 #143
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Never Again! BidenRocks Jul 27 #20
I always took it to be a brilliant altruistic resolution. mjvpi Jul 27 #99
If we were a just country right now, we'd be showing Netanyahu what we used to do to terrorists. Initech Jul 27 #23
It's almost the whole Congress who keeps voting to give Israel unlimited money womanofthehills Jul 27 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Jul 27 #51
I hold back because this is the goal of Hamas/Palestinians. To sacrifice their kids in order to discredit Israel Pompoy Jul 27 #29
Do not equate Palestinian victims with Hamas terrorists. Not the same thing. That's like saying... brush Jul 27 #39
That is BS Israeli propaganda and demonization of Palestinians. AloeVera Jul 27 #56
Speaking of bovine excrement Pompoy Jul 28 #162
Lol. You're in a bubble. AloeVera Jul 28 #167
For Israel too Mossfern Jul 28 #195
About Defendant muriel_volestrangler Jul 28 #188
The perpetrators and defenders of the atrocities are "playing the victim" when challenged Ping Tung Jul 28 #193
They love their kids - you can see how loving the father's are to their kids womanofthehills Jul 27 #68
Have you heard of the concept: Blame the victim. Big Blue Marble Jul 28 #201
And I'm saying that the Palestinians share even greater responsibility for this disaster. It's what they want. Pompoy Jul 28 #226
I would substitute "Hamas" for "Palestinians" in your statement Mossfern Jul 28 #232
Oh Please! nt RobinA Jul 28 #221
Where did you hear that crap? Got any links? Violet_Crumble Jul 30 #286
In a normal world, Israel should be treated as a beloved family member suffering Maru Kitteh Jul 27 #30
That's a kind thought. But it's a 77-year old mental health crisis. AloeVera Jul 27 #145
In other words, Israel needs an "intervention." Intractable Jul 28 #163
That is correct, I believe. nt Maru Kitteh Jul 28 #194
Biden gets blamed for everything. EndlessWire Jul 28 #236
In my opinion, Biden should have withheld awesome offensive weapons from the Israelis. Intractable Jul 28 #238
He should of stopped supplying the weapons questionseverything Jul 29 #276
The ultra orthodox on both sides are to blame. multigraincracker Jul 27 #33
History Godot51 Jul 27 #35
We have seen the lengths a man, with no conscience, will go to dlk Jul 27 #36
+1 dalton99a Jul 27 #123
A quick summary about Israel's current government PghTiny Jul 27 #37
Agree Mossfern Jul 27 #41
Thank you. It's very important to keep this in mind. thought crime Jul 28 #148
Bibi agrees with it, let's be real. AloeVera Jul 28 #175
Lol. Gaza was independent, why was it the Gazans who attacked and not the West Bank Palestinians? Pompoy Jul 28 #227
Joining the conversation 22 months into the slaughter, I wonder why now? AloeVera Jul 28 #234
The Israel of 2025 is not the Israel of 1948. OrlandoDem2 Jul 27 #45
The America of 2025 is not the America of 1948, as well.... Hekate Jul 28 #158
It's exactly like Israel of 1948. AloeVera Jul 28 #259
It's not an accident, & not due to one maniacal Bibi Netanhayu...but decades of policies with an intended purpose. Passages Jul 27 #72
Yes. Driving Gazan refugees into the Sinai has been the goal since 1948. AloeVera Jul 27 #140
Sad to say, but that would have worked out better in the long run for everybody. As in the Balkans etc Pompoy Jul 28 #228
Although the Arabs who stayed in Israel are doing ok, doctors, scientists, politicians, tv presenters. Pompoy Jul 28 #229
Just as I thought. AloeVera Jul 28 #237
Lol, lighten up Frances. Obviously Israel hasn't done any ethnic cleansing. That's why things are as they are now. Pompoy Jul 28 #255
"Pleasing the Palestinians" AloeVera Jul 28 #258
Bye Pompoy Jul 28 #260
Ah, a Hungarian whose favorite subject is Israel/Palestine. Pompoy Jul 28 #261
A Canadian citizen for nearly 60 years, actually. AloeVera Jul 30 #284
Bye Felicia Pompoy Jul 30 #290
This is a great post but the speaking out should have started about 22 months ago. Even decades ago. AloeVera Jul 27 #73
The college kids have been screaming about this, but their message was branded by others to be antisemitism. mjvpi Jul 27 #105
What was done to the college protesters was terrible. Branded, criminalized, banned, jailed, lost jobs, deported. AloeVera Jul 27 #115
I agree totally. In my opinion, Biden's blind support of Israeli actions cost the Dems the election. mjvpi Jul 27 #119
Yes, it did. It's awful, but it's the truth AloeVera Jul 27 #135
Respectfully, knowing what Trump was like, knowing he could be no-holds-barred bc 2nd term it was wrong to stay home... electric_blue68 Jul 28 #156
I don't disagree at all! AloeVera Jul 28 #210
Now we can blame those too for Trump. Thank you for admitting that. Pompoy Jul 28 #230
I'll vouch for that. Most young people I know refused to vote for that reason vanessa_ca Jul 28 #161
Thanks for your bravery. AloeVera Jul 28 #191
I cringed when I heard about it. Of all places, he did that in Michigan? vanessa_ca Jul 28 #217
More here: 2004 The plans were all there, you merely need to follow the time line. Passages Jul 27 #102
I've always been in favor of a two state solution. EndlessWire Jul 28 #152
I think it will just be Israel and - Greater Israel. AloeVera Jul 28 #187
Israel is going down a very dangerous road WSHazel Jul 27 #136
Where Would They Go? RobinA Jul 28 #223
Well said UpInArms Jul 27 #138
The US and any other country who have armed Israel is just as responsible for the needless murder going on ImNotGod Jul 27 #142
Hamas had nothing to do with it? Mossfern Jul 27 #144
THEY DID THIS, THEY DID THAT Skittles Jul 28 #150
their reputation is SHIT now Skittles Jul 28 #149
Israel's most recent history Jack Valentino Jul 28 #154
Just in time for Project Esther... live love laugh Jul 28 #160
Israel has certainly fallen in my eyes. Intractable Jul 28 #164
The Nazis blamed Jews for all sorts of nonsense and BS IronLionZion Jul 28 #165
There is no antisemitism on the left. nt LexVegas Jul 28 #170
Is that a joke? yardwork Jul 28 #172
??? lostincalifornia Jul 28 #176
Genocide maliaSmith Jul 28 #177
To be fair, they are also Bettie Jul 29 #271
I'm so old that I remember when there was a country of Palestine. Dafuq happened to it? OMGWTF Jul 28 #180
There was a *territory* called Palestine. Mossfern Jul 28 #196
When was there a country called Palestine? sarisataka Jul 28 #206
The "country" was the UK and if you born before 1920, it was the Ottoman Empire. LeftInTX Jul 29 #263
I'm not anti Israel but sho nuff anti BB, America would turn into same thing under 1 or 3 Trump admins... uponit7771 Jul 28 #199
netanyahoou is clinging to power + resists a 2 state solution + pushes settlements. pansypoo53219 Jul 28 #203
Mandy Patinkin is both articulate and emotional on the blowback to all Jews that Netanyahu is driving. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 28 #219
Truth Mossfern Jul 28 #222
love Mandy Skittles Jul 28 #231
Scorching Truth, Mandy. TY. electric_blue68 Jul 29 #265
So passionate about this Bettie Jul 29 #268
Always loved him and mow love him more. AloeVera Jul 29 #269
You can feel his frustration and anger Bettie Jul 29 #272
Painful even to listen to and watch. His heartbreak is real. AloeVera Jul 29 #273
Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Jul 28 #224
I'm not an anti-semite swong19104 Jul 28 #225
That's a great way to put it. David__77 Jul 28 #245
No need to label it Mossfern Jul 29 #270
You hit the nail on the head EndlessWire. The architects of the Balfour Declaration should have akbacchus_BC Jul 30 #289
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