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jfz9580m

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13. Aren't those the same types of men in essence?
Sat Aug 9, 2025, 02:06 AM
Aug 9

I never got this Chad/alpha male/caveman versus beta/Incel shit. They all sound like the same type of throwback..

It’s because of a type of creepy guy who peddles pseudosciences that this crap is so a part of what is mainstream now - Henry Harpending (human sociobiology), the bell Charles Murray (the Bell Curve creep), Steve Sailor (the VDare Nazi guy). It’s everywhere in subtler forms by now.

I saw this yesterday: perceptual psychology. Soft junk science that has a vaguely spooky feel.

At a time when real hard science is underfunded and endangered (especially when non-profit), this Edward Bernays adjacent behaviorism, nudge theory, psychophysics, affective computing and other bilge growing is not a good sign.

It’s all about fiddling with human brains (and as a hack would). Reality tv, marketing and military-industrial psychological sciences are
poisoning society imo.

Its these manipulative, crass, lightweight or outright pseudoscientific areas from where this bunk emerges. I’d like to see a Sokal hoax take those pseudosciences on. Seeding and planting ideas, fishing, sublimnal advertising…so daft..I can see maybe a rare case of something useful of that kind, but it would be that rare and that hard. Not something you can hack or sleepwalk your way through..

My dad is an honest military officer/vet and he has no patience with that stuff nor with defense contracting nor the people inside the military who sell out soldiers to this civilian Kleptocreepocracy.

I always liked my dad’s military colleagues - decent people. The one time I met a defense contractor locally though in 2014 he sexually harassed me within 3 months..It was a one off, but it definitely gave me the impression that that’s an area where corruption creeps in. It’s pretty deregulated and doesn’t have the same training requirements that the military proper does. Further my dad doesn’t like politically connected military officers who angle for industrial favors, cushy jobs and sell out the military.

Civilization is definitely not a favorite of these guys. Throwbacks..No wonder they dislike the Dept of Education, regular non-profit science etc.

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Forced pregnancies. Irish_Dem Aug 8 #1
That's the plan. Ocelot II Aug 8 #2
Exactly KentuckyWoman Aug 8 #7
All part of the plan, afaict. For white men who grouse about "unfair" competition with DEI candidates.... Hekate Aug 8 #4
White males are only 30% of the US population. Irish_Dem Aug 9 #15
Only the ones like Hegseth and Trump and their ilk. It's the power structure, the money structure... Hekate Aug 9 #20
White males have been bossing and controlling women Irish_Dem Aug 9 #21
Every race, creed, and color has produced their share of despots and monsters. Every gender, too... Hekate Aug 9 #22
Yes but right now our monsters are white males. Irish_Dem Aug 10 #23
When I was in college in the late 60s-early 70s, Wicked Blue Aug 8 #3
K&R Solly Mack Aug 8 #5
It really takes some doing to make Dick Nixon look like a reasonable human & a statesman... Hekate Aug 8 #6
And check out the attitude of this clown who is running for Tina Smith's seat dflprincess Aug 8 #8
It's scarier to watch a society embrace regressive views jfz9580m Aug 8 #9
OMG, an incel who thinks he's an alpha caveman. Ocelot II Aug 8 #11
Aren't those the same types of men in essence? jfz9580m Aug 9 #13
As a young woman with no contraception I would have stayed far, far away from an *hole like that... Hekate Aug 9 #14
Dull guys who have nothing going for themselves have to blame their deficiencies on allegorical oracle Aug 9 #16
All these guys who claim to be "alpha cavemen" look like dweebs. yardwork Aug 9 #18
Just Say No!! BidenRocks Aug 8 #10
The men promoting this also believe it's their right to rape women. yardwork Aug 9 #19
They need canon fodder Blue Full Moon Aug 8 #12
Barefoot and pregnant peggysue2 Aug 9 #17
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