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In reply to the discussion: Don't applaud fake "creativity" in AI-generated garbage. You're applauding a parody of creativity, and [View all]jfz9580m
(15,933 posts)I sometimes make art..well okay mostly just spiteful scrawls to vent frustration 🙄, but even for that except PowerPoint I never use any tools.
When I use images from the net I always attribute. And when I dont its because I dont remember the source. Two of my favorite images are ones where I cant recollect the sources. I should find them.
And all my bad art is derivative (its just an exercise to vent frustration..It has no connection with my livelihood or life) so I always pay homage to actually funny comedians (my favorite artists). I cant pay homage to the funny people I knew irl who inspired me since everyone I know is a private person.
Agree with everything you said about theft.
You might like this blogger highplainsdem. He is a tech critic I find helpful. He trashed a shitty Carlin knockoff called Dudesy.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/empty-laughter/
Zitron himself can be kinda funny. Its the loathing that gives it the zing. That line paraphrases a line from Ira Levines Rosemarys Baby-the tears give it the zing.
One semi-useful thing about AI is that it made me realize how often I at least use references from books in conversation. Thats mostly because I used to chat mainly with my mom and most of our conversations were about the books we both liked. But it was always in the context of those specific books. Not exploiting them to pass oneself off as a funny conversationalist even if we would joke about stuff from life that reminded us of some caricature from a book.
Same with my friends where in-jokes based on common tastes was normal. But that was never online. In private emails or chats. Or irl.
Back when books and other parts of life were not be grabbed, commodified and turned into distasteful, nails on chalkboard content.
These industries of commodification of private experience (I probably heard a similar line from Zuboff) have forced me at least to become less and less mechanical after initially becoming completely mechanical. Not like a bot but like a human who gives up.
Theres never been a better time to eschew use of other peoples creativity/efforts. I confess to caricaturing creativity and efforts that I think shouldnt exist, but thats valid imo.
AI is altogether so offensive, mechanical and brainless thats its sole use so far is to disgust me into better effort and hopefully that assists in the demise of these awful, ecologically destructive industries. I have felt like a parrot at times pseudo-manipulated by half witted behaviorists and bad tech when navigating crappy systems filled with rubbish AI and the moronic humans behind the AI who are happy to exploit and manipulate people. Its the perversion of guidance.
To motivate people into stuff thats actually good for them is a far cry from manipulation attempts that just produce confusing, hard to interpret behaviors since no one sane would actively assist anything that exploitative and predatory.
The only use that can have is if it helps kill this tumor of a junk industry and the fatuous pseudo productivity and vacuous creativity it churns out.
One thing I can say, having gotten an early exposure to this junk was eye opening. Initially it was learned helplessness. I know manipulation and influence are bunk. Motivation is not entirely bunk -but anything good for you or society broadly requires lots of real effort. Manipulation and goading and riling up can at best end up decimating your resources without even helping predatory industries when people have had a headsup..so its the example of classic stupidity-not actually good for predators or hypothetical prey. Not in the long run
But predatory and stupid is most of what I have seen for the last 13 years..But stupid is not very scary in the end..
I wish my posts werent so long. Its just that theres a lot on my mind and its taking clearer form these days.
I have realized that AI actually this very perverse utility in a twisted way..no not its use by someone hedging bets and saying I am showing why it is wrong. Thats bs.
Just the effect on the human brain.
When you see something of such accelerating useless ugliness, you start to identify what was wrong with out society even before..its not like things were a picnic before AI. Its just putting it in starker relief.
Our entertainment industries always exploited artists and now its accelerating and uglier than ever.
With every system that ever treated an animal, a human being or the planet like something to exploit and discard, AI is putting those in overdrive..those mechanisms are thrown into sharp relief and hopefully that starts dawning on people more.
What the fix is I dont know. Because one problem usually is before a diagnosis even a hasty solution exploiting stuff without thinking ahead..Evgeny Morozow who makes a lot of sense pointed that out.
My own solution is to start thinking less mechanically and more deeply. And while I have some resources and health left to secure a future where these things are as minimal a nuisance to me as they can be.
Its also the worst types of people thriving. I am always reminded of Orwells scurrying little men from 1984
Its one thing to be born into 1984 or some archaic society: its another actively watch a descent into that accelerated by junk tech.
We are a stupid species.
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