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Hugin

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69. In a way, I agree with you on that.

Mon Aug 11, 2025, 04:51 AM

Aug 11

Especially on having AI generate code. That’s where it gets really obvious and it’s also what the fewest laypersons attempt.

In my experimentation, if I completely specified what I wanted in my prompt up-front and kept it focused and small, I typically get reasonable results. Even on generating small GUIs.

The real problems started cropping up on the context switching inherent to debugging and code maintenance. I would often receive fixes that were only a rehash of the original code. Even though I had written what I considered to be an adequate prompt. Sometimes even including an actual fix in my prompt. Eventually the AI would give up an add a comment where I should paste my bug fixes/updates in future versions of the code.

In this case, writing a prompt became so cumbersome I may as well write the code myself or hand off my precisely written code spec prompt to a human who could handle the context switching of debugging without going back to square one every time.

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Absolutely agreed, HPD! SheltieLover Aug 10 #1

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Very well said! 👏🏼 benfranklin1776 Aug 10 #21

Thanks - including for mentioning Curtis Yarvin. highplainsdem Aug 10 #37

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Rage against the calculators! JCMach1 Aug 10 #22

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If it does destroy the internet ... 4th Aug 11 #72

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Will not happen 4th Aug 11 #80

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My grandson, at UCF in Florida, and his classmates cachukis Aug 11 #78

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Kicking again SheltieLover Aug 10 #27

Thanks! highplainsdem Aug 10 #36

Ty for posting! SheltieLover Aug 10 #39

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AI? Straw Man Aug 10 #31

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I doubt that I 'massively increased my carbon footprint' as a human by doing this AZJonnie Aug 10 #45

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Yes, that is what I'm saying AZJonnie Aug 10 #51

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Okay, but as far as the effect on the earth's climate is concerned, it doesn't matter one whit AZJonnie Aug 10 #56

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Sigh. highplainsdem Aug 10 #57

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This exchange MorbidButterflyTat Aug 10 #53

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Good metonym. highplainsdem Aug 12 #87

New Word! Thank You IA8IT Aug 12 #89

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