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EdmondDantes_

(853 posts)
18. Not trying to be snarky, but what's fair?
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 01:33 PM
Aug 27

Is home mortgage interest fair given it's a benefit to those of us who own homes, but not to renters?

We use the tax code to promote various things. Student loan interest, medical expenses, etc.

I can only give a broad outline of what I would want to fix.

Raise the top tax brackets, take off the social security cap. Address the ability of ceos and such to get paid via stock options that encourage them to avoid taxes and the taking a loan on stuff to avoid having income. Perhaps a minimum tax or taxing on the "unrealized" gains but that would have to be done carefully to not hit everyone, maybe a minimum amount say 5 million in stock holdings. Changes to the estate tax. Take away the stock buyback option. Include pet medical expenses as a tax deductible option. Some sort of trade or other non-college school tax break to go with the student loan break because all jobs have value and we need more people in the trades and other jobs that don't require college so that it becomes more fair than student loans which primarily benefit those already likely to make more money.

Increase tax incentives for starting small businesses especially around health insurance because that's an impediment as long as we tie insurance to employment.

I'm sure I could come up with more. But I think it's a really complicated area and like so many other things the impact of lobbying favors the wealthy or business who can afford to stay interested year after year in advocating, so I think you'd also need to address that aspect.

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Reimpose the tax system from the late 90's WSHazel Aug 27 #1
or reimpose the tax rates from the 1950's under Eisenhower, Jack Valentino Aug 27 #33
Glibly, no more billionaires mr715 Aug 27 #2
Progressive income tax, vat tax for public healthcare, applegrove Aug 27 #26
Tax Laws JustAnotherGen Aug 27 #3
56% on all income above $20,000 ? MichMan Aug 27 #7
240k in today's dollars carpetbagger Aug 27 #12
What i would do is set it at 150k, and anything below that is tax free Volaris Aug 27 #15
Thanks JustAnotherGen, What in specific from 1956 tax code? DUU Aug 27 #14
I think its funny so many MAGAs biocube Aug 27 #17
Both of my grandfathers JustAnotherGen Aug 27 #25
Transaction tax on certain loans Jerry2144 Aug 27 #4
Generally, Ike's tax structure is the closest to my ideal Torchlight Aug 27 #5
Remove the SS cap Freddie Aug 27 #6
A message that will confuse Repubes LR3 Aug 27 #8
First, collect all of the unpaid taxes. nt chowder66 Aug 27 #9
I don't care if it's "fair" to billionaires n/t leftstreet Aug 27 #10
Most billionaires no longer work haele Aug 27 #16
Replace personal and corporate income tax Disaffected Aug 27 #11
What's not to like? Chemical Bill Aug 28 #37
They don't usually stick it under the mattress either. Disaffected Aug 28 #48
How do you collect a progressive sales tax? MichMan Friday #49
The tax charged depends not on the individual purchaser Disaffected Friday #50
I can think of untaxed potential WarGamer Aug 27 #13
That's a fair way to get money and doesn't directly impact even small time investors. haele Aug 27 #19
How do you justify that on things like penny stocks? thatdemguy Aug 27 #30
I'd make exceptions... WarGamer Aug 27 #31
Not trying to be snarky, but what's fair? EdmondDantes_ Aug 27 #18
10% flat tax bif Aug 27 #20
Very regressive compared to even the BBB karynnj Aug 27 #22
Good for the well healed, horrible for the remainder. Disaffected Aug 27 #23
Yes WmChris Aug 27 #29
Flat taxes are unfair to the poor, and a boon to the rich, Bif.... Jack Valentino Aug 27 #34
That's much more painful for a single mother in a minimum wage job with two kids than Scrivener7 Aug 28 #41
The first thing would be a national discussion karynnj Aug 27 #21
The Standard Deduction was increased substantially in 2017 MichMan Aug 27 #24
That's ONE part of the 2017 Trump tax bill that I agree with--- Jack Valentino Aug 27 #35
It lowered taxes for many, if not most, who itemize as well SickOfTheOnePct Aug 28 #44
If the 2017 law had done without lowering the rates at the top, karynnj Aug 28 #46
Masters of war pay the most. GreenWave Aug 27 #27
I have a few things to say that won't don't in the title bar. thatdemguy Aug 27 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author DUU Aug 28 #47
And remove SS cap. Sneederbunk Aug 27 #32
I have not thought long and hard about this question but BlueSpot Aug 27 #36
No state, local, property or sales taxes... Chemical Bill Aug 28 #38
Graduated. No tax on poorest 10% and certainly 95% rate on that second billion an oligarch makes Scrivener7 Aug 28 #39
More of a flat tax Johnny2X2X Aug 28 #40
So that's a graduated tax. And I think that's the fairest answer. Scrivener7 Aug 28 #42
Yeah Johnny2X2X Aug 28 #43
I see your point, but it is a graduated rather than a flat tax. Scrivener7 Aug 28 #45
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