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lostnfound

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Sun Aug 31, 2025, 07:06 AM Sunday

Bizarre "explanation" for assassination of Minnesota democratic house member [View all]

Less than 3 months ago, the targeted murders of Minnesota speaker of the house Melissa Hortman, her husband, and attempted murders of State senator John Hoffman and his wife were tragic, dramatic, newsworthy and pivotal in Minnesota politics, given the 50-50 split in these houses. I was curious whether the murders had indeed resulted in tipping the balance in Minnesota’s house and also whether the murderer has been convicted. It has evaporated from the news — despite its dramatic and newsworthy nature.

Stupid google gave an automatic AI answer when i searched for ‘Boelter shooting’, and it was bizarre:
The "Boelter shooting" refers to an incident on June 14, 2025, in Minnesota where Vance Boelter, 57, allegedly shot and killed a man and injured a woman before being captured two days later. He was arrested on suspicion of the assassination of DFL House Leader Melissa Hortman and the attempted assassination of her husband, Robert Hortman. The investigation focused on Boelter's motive, which may have been related to financial stress from failed business ventures in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Key Details
Incident: June 14, 2025
Suspect: Vance Boelter, 57
Victims: A man was killed, and a woman, believed to be Melissa Hortman, was injured.
Arrest: Boelter was captured on June 16, 2025.
Allegations: Boelter is accused of assassinating a Democratic lawmaker's husband and attempting to assassinate the lawmaker.
Motive: Reports suggest Boelter was facing financial difficulties after his business ventures in the Democratic Republic of Congo failed.


Three bizarre features:
First, the motive was related to financial stress from a failed business venture???
Second, the allegations section suggests that Melissa Hortman didn’t die?
Third: the victims section implies what…? That we don’t know the identity of the woman?

From what febrile conspiracy-troll-farm land is AI deriving this slop?
Yes, I know AI has large deficiencies, and Google sucks, but really??

Don’t believe our lying eyes; just trust What The Party Tells Us. So handy for the dystopia that the GOP is implementing.
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Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links) lostnfound Sunday #1
The charges are federal because . . . DarthDem Sunday #9
Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess Pam Bondi and Kash Patel... lostnfound Monday #31
You're welcome DarthDem Monday #33
Damn TheFarseer Sunday #2
It certainly appears that way. niyad Sunday #8
Would you be surprised if they were? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sunday #17
Unlikely given how they work and our limited ability to control what the output will be EdmondDantes_ Sunday #18
I pretty Rebl2 Sunday #29
"I went to the shitty answer machine and it gave me a shitty answer." WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #3
You're missing my point, nt lostnfound Sunday #4
You both are correct wolfie001 Sunday #15
No, they were repeating your point muriel_volestrangler Monday #34
What was your question/prompt? I got an entirely different response from Google. sl8 Sunday #5
investigation boelter shooting lostnfound Sunday #16
Thanks. sl8 Sunday #21
Infowars-prepper-gun-guy anti-gay preacher doesn't fit the profile lostnfound Sunday #6
Thank you for this information. Disturbing, and one of the reasons I niyad Sunday #7
Agree DarthDem Sunday #10
Yep. And what a waste of time having to verify. paleotn Sunday #20
As important as better algorithms is what data they train on karynnj Sunday #27
True, lots of great uses. An apparent down side is some loss of professional skils? lostnfound Monday #30
Wish a good billionaire could fund a library initiative to make an expanding carefully-trained database for public use lostnfound Monday #32
Yeah, like it's somehow able to sift through all the internet BS and return reality. In many cases, no. paleotn Sunday #19
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Sunday #11
AI only knows what its fed. And it's feeding on the garbage pile that is social media. paleotn Sunday #12
The national media always fades out on these rightwing hit stories viva la Sunday #13
Yes, it was mentioned in early articles and yes, it was Democrats targeted karynnj Sunday #28
Peter Thiel's greasy hands all over this wolfie001 Sunday #14
i engage with AI only minimally barbtries Sunday #22
We can tell there was no political agenda based on how the dude looks IronLionZion Sunday #23
This is what I got when I expanded the Google prompt Aviation Pro Sunday #24
Self delete to consider how I'm saying what I'm saying. But I think you are right. Hekate Sunday #25
More evidence that AI is crap. All it knows is what it sucks up from every cesspool on the internet. Ocelot II Sunday #26
I've seen some blatantly incorrect things from gen AI recently Renew Deal Monday #35
My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out' TheProle Monday #36
I've successfully used detailed prompts for plenty of deep structured answers. This OP was prompted by 2 concerns. lostnfound Monday #37
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