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lostnfound

(17,170 posts)
1. Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links)
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 07:23 AM
Sunday

Can anyone explain why these are federal charges?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/vance-boelter-indicted-murders-melissa-and-mark-hortman-shootings-john-and-yvette-0

This case is the result of an investigation conducted by the FBI, Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, ATF, Brooklyn Park Police Department, Minneapolis Police Department, Hennepin County Sheriff’s Office, Champlin Police Department, and New Hope Police Department, together with several other state and local partners. The National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section also assisted in the investigation. This investigation has proceeded with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in strong partnership with the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office


Pled not guilty; Pam Bondi to decide on seeking death penalty; letter to Kash Patel
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/08/07/vance-boelter-enters-plea-in-minnesota-lawmaker-hortman-shooting-case
Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson said in July that that a decision on whether to seek capital punishment is months away and will ultimately be made by Attorney General Pam Bondi with input from Minnesota federal prosecutors and the victims’ families.

In addition to Atwal, a federal public defender based in Minneapolis, Boelter’s defense team includes Las Vegas-based federal defenders Kimberly Sharkey and Ryan Norwood. Sharkey is chief of the death penalty unit in the federal public defender’s office.

When they announced the indictment, federal prosecutors released a rambling handwritten letter they say Boelter wrote to FBI Director Kash Patel. In it, Boelter allegedly confessed to the June 14 shootings of Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, but it does not make clear why he targeted the Hortmans or Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, who survived.

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Status - indicted on 6 federal charges on July 15th, pled not guilty on Aug 7 (links) lostnfound Sunday #1
The charges are federal because . . . DarthDem Sunday #9
Thanks for the clear explanation. I guess Pam Bondi and Kash Patel... lostnfound Monday #31
You're welcome DarthDem Monday #33
Damn TheFarseer Sunday #2
It certainly appears that way. niyad Sunday #8
Would you be surprised if they were? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sunday #17
Unlikely given how they work and our limited ability to control what the output will be EdmondDantes_ Sunday #18
I pretty Rebl2 Sunday #29
"I went to the shitty answer machine and it gave me a shitty answer." WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #3
You're missing my point, nt lostnfound Sunday #4
You both are correct wolfie001 Sunday #15
No, they were repeating your point muriel_volestrangler Monday #34
What was your question/prompt? I got an entirely different response from Google. sl8 Sunday #5
investigation boelter shooting lostnfound Sunday #16
Thanks. sl8 Sunday #21
Infowars-prepper-gun-guy anti-gay preacher doesn't fit the profile lostnfound Sunday #6
Thank you for this information. Disturbing, and one of the reasons I niyad Sunday #7
Agree DarthDem Sunday #10
Yep. And what a waste of time having to verify. paleotn Sunday #20
As important as better algorithms is what data they train on karynnj Sunday #27
True, lots of great uses. An apparent down side is some loss of professional skils? lostnfound Monday #30
Wish a good billionaire could fund a library initiative to make an expanding carefully-trained database for public use lostnfound Monday #32
Yeah, like it's somehow able to sift through all the internet BS and return reality. In many cases, no. paleotn Sunday #19
AI is the devil. Scrivener7 Sunday #11
AI only knows what its fed. And it's feeding on the garbage pile that is social media. paleotn Sunday #12
The national media always fades out on these rightwing hit stories viva la Sunday #13
Yes, it was mentioned in early articles and yes, it was Democrats targeted karynnj Sunday #28
Peter Thiel's greasy hands all over this wolfie001 Sunday #14
i engage with AI only minimally barbtries Sunday #22
We can tell there was no political agenda based on how the dude looks IronLionZion Sunday #23
This is what I got when I expanded the Google prompt Aviation Pro Sunday #24
Self delete to consider how I'm saying what I'm saying. But I think you are right. Hekate Sunday #25
More evidence that AI is crap. All it knows is what it sucks up from every cesspool on the internet. Ocelot II Sunday #26
I've seen some blatantly incorrect things from gen AI recently Renew Deal Monday #35
My favorite part of low-info AI hating is the unironic parroting of 'garbage in, garbage out' TheProle Monday #36
I've successfully used detailed prompts for plenty of deep structured answers. This OP was prompted by 2 concerns. lostnfound Monday #37
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