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Oopsie Daisy

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17. True. But a bit more idealistic than realistic.

Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:19 AM

Sep 3

It may "take a village" but it starts with parenting, without a good foundation to build on, what a village can accomplish is limited. It seems reasonable to guess that the parenting (or lack thereof) would also be one of those "you can't tell MY child what to do" type of people... or the "we negotiate with our children and let them make their own decisions" type of parenting philosophy.

I think it also seems unrealistic that the child would have responded positively (or even heard him) if the man had given him a stern talking-to as he was running away. My best guess is that yelling would have only been essentially to reward the kid with type of reaction he was seeking.

What a tragic ending. Maybe new will spread and parents will pay closer attention to what their free-range children are doing... and who they hang with. Or the "kids" will become aware that this type of aggressive and threatening behavior comes with great risk.

Let's hope that something positive comes from it all.

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Have you ever heard of the DOOR KICK CHALLENGE? [View all] Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 OP

just askin' questions, huh? uncle ray Sep 3 #1

Do you have more information to share? Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #5

Par for the course. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 3 #91

you're right -- being as afraid as possible is the key point here WhiskeyGrinder Sep 3 #2

Good Rebl2 Sep 3 #3

It did. 11 year old kid. RubyRose Sep 3 #29

That's Rebl2 Sep 3 #57

I suspect that the police would have noticed a kicked-in door Heidi Sep 3 #4

I imagine so too... but would it have been part of the report? Would reporters have included it in their stories? Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #6

Yes, we have no choice but to wait and see. Heidi Sep 3 #10

The asshole JustAnotherGen Sep 4 #115

And Heidi Sep 4 #116

He was sooooo JustAnotherGen Sep 4 #117

Bless his heart. Heidi Sep 4 #119

So, kicking the door justifies murder? LearnedHand Sep 3 #7

Oh please. Did I say that? GMAFB! Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #9

Given these video episodes have nothing to do with the actual murder LearnedHand Sep 3 #13

I doubt that genuine "understanding" was at the apex of the motivation for that post * Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #21

Justified? Definitely not. BannonsLiver Sep 3 #90

We had one attack in Missouri, 3 years ago. joanbarnes Sep 3 #8

Yep- just days after getting my new screen door installed, a bunch of youths were LeftinOH Sep 3 #11

That's reasonable: "I wouldn't have shot anyone." Heidi Sep 3 #16

Yes, kids in our neighborhood do it. yardwork Sep 3 #12

Thank you! Heidi Sep 3 #14

Well, thank YOU! yardwork Sep 3 #15

True. But a bit more idealistic than realistic. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #17

Childhood pranks are very common in every generation. yardwork Sep 3 #20

Based on what we do know... some reasonable conclusions can be arrived at. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #22

He didn't "donkey kick" the door indusurb Sep 3 #25

Gotcha. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #35

I agree senseandsensibility Sep 3 #37

I think simply being aware of this dockey kick prank can prevent kids from being shot. LeftInTX Sep 3 #48

You're assuming a lot about this child's parents and upbringing, why? indusurb Sep 3 #24

No not all kids do these dumb things. Why do you assume that? NoRethugFriends Sep 3 #26

Because I've raised kids taught kids, been around kids most of my life indusurb Sep 3 #28

No, not all kids do it! Why would you think that? NoRethugFriends Sep 3 #31

You and your family never did anything the slightest bit risky? indusurb Sep 3 #43

I had a great childhood, as did my kids, and have my grandkids NoRethugFriends Sep 3 #45

I did a lot of dumb things that my parents and grandparents and all their friends didn't witness Iris Sep 4 #118

You may scoff, but I know my kids and grandkids well enough to have a damn good idea. NoRethugFriends Sep 4 #149

My guess is many people will assert their experience as quite the opposite of yours. Torchlight Saturday #155

This was no door kick challenge indusurb Sep 3 #18

Dum things on TikTok. LeftInTX Sep 3 #19

Yes... that would have been preferable. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #23

What difference would that make? Kaleva Sep 3 #27

Annoyance vs fear might make a big difference in... Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #36

If one is afraid, then don't go to the door Kaleva Sep 3 #39

Yes. That's right. And very easy advice to give from the safety of one's keyboard... Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #49

What did the training program on home defense that you took teach you to do? Kaleva Sep 3 #53

If that sort of thing is someone's "terror of the moment" they really shouldn't own guns. hunter Sep 3 #96

He could have held them there at gunpoint FullySupportDems Sep 3 #30

You only point a gun at someone you intend to kill Kaleva Sep 3 #41

That's not true. You can hold a gun on someone to hold them there Melon Sep 3 #99

Legally one can do that. Kaleva Sep 4 #110

I suppose that's true. I think he wanted to shoot FullySupportDems Sep 3 #107

Guns can give people false sense of empowerment Kaleva Sep 4 #111

I think that must be true FullySupportDems Sep 4 #112

A gun is a tool of last resort Kaleva Sep 4 #120

I agree FullySupportDems Sep 4 #147

I didn't see any allegations that the "ding dong kid" was doing more than ringing and running. flvegan Sep 3 #32

It's very disappointing. yardwork Sep 4 #125

If you kick in my door I will shoot. NightWatcher Sep 3 #33

People who have been terrorized in their own homes... Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #38

The fact that it is only the kids that can learn a lesson from your viewpoint reveals volumes Ilikepurple Sep 3 #85

This is not about me. Nice try. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #88

It's not about me, it's about satisfying my personal theories and ideas? Ilikepurple Sep 3 #101

What are you to do? You are certainly welcome to share your ideas... without making it personal. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #114

Do you have a safe room? Kaleva Sep 3 #42

Safe room? That's a luxury for the 1%. As far as I'm concerned, my entire home is a "safe room"... Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #51

Where did you get your training from? Kaleva Sep 3 #54

Why do you care? What difference does it make? That's your answer. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #55

So we've established you have no training Kaleva Sep 3 #60

This is not about me. And you are free to assume whatever you want, even if it's absurd. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #65

If you won't answer a simple question, all one can do is make assumptions Kaleva Sep 3 #69

My answer is irrelevant. I know it's "important" to make this about me, but I'm not participating in that game. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #70

You wrote the OP so this is about you. Kaleva Sep 4 #121

Nonsense. The topic is the topic. I'm not the topic. 🤡🤣😂 Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #122

Your lack of training and knowledge is the topic Kaleva Sep 4 #123

Nope. Wrong again. Here is the text of my OP. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #126

A dumb fuck with a gun would blame this entirely on the kids Kaleva Friday #153

I agree JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #86

I stopped training when I fell down the basement stairs and shattered my left shoulder Kaleva Friday #150

This message was self-deleted by its author Kaleva Friday #151

The child didn't kick or enter the door. yardwork Sep 3 #47

Time will tell. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #52

I didn't insinuate anything. yardwork Sep 3 #58

Of course you didn't insinuate anything. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #61

You did ornotna Sep 3 #63

It looks like "time" has already told us what happened Lifeafter70 Sep 3 #67

It's still very early in the investigation. I'll be interested in seeing the final report. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #68

You seem to want to blame everyone else for this Lifeafter70 Sep 3 #71

It's not about me. I'm just pointing out facts and giving my analysis of the likely tragic series of events. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #72

You are not pointing out facts. Lifeafter70 Sep 3 #74

Well, it's clear that we've reached an impasse. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #75

Nope Lifeafter70 Sep 3 #76

The little kid JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #95

Agree. That's just the harsh reality of it. Don't put yourself in that position in the first place. Problem solved. BannonsLiver Sep 3 #92

I don't let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head. hunter Sep 3 #102

There are way more important things to be scared about. North Coast Lawyer Sep 3 #34

either way Skittles Sep 3 #40

I read early on he was doing a tik tok challenge Melon Sep 3 #44

Just as a lot of falsehoods were spread about Trayvon Martin, we see that here. yardwork Sep 3 #46

I'm not saying in any way that any child action justifies a shooting. I read and have heard that they were donkey Melon Sep 3 #56

As I said, falsehoods are being spread. yardwork Sep 3 #59

He knew it was pranks. He should have yelled at them or called the cops. LeftInTX Sep 3 #62

Where is proof JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #87

Exactly. It's printed in news articles same as your " proof". It is all in the news at this point. Melon Sep 3 #97

There is not ONE news JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #98

He shouldn't have killed the boy. Nobody on this board has stated that. Melon Sep 3 #100

Nah JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #103

"Almost every article" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 4 #109

It's unclear to me which he was doing. It seems unlikely that a mere ding-dong-run-away would provoke the homeowner... Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #50

Your assessment of likelihoods is way off. RockRaven Sep 3 #64

Yes, I know. That's horrible, isn't it? Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #66

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than Sincere Ignorance and Conscientious Stupidity. Feel Good Inc Sep 3 #78

Very true. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #82

He's a psycho with lots of guns MorbidButterflyTat Sep 3 #80

Yes. Definitely not in his right mind. Oopsie Daisy Sep 3 #81

He's being charged with capital murder JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #89

I don't think we know all of the facts yet on either side. hamsterjill Sep 3 #73

We probably have enough facts to make a reasoned assumption. Ilikepurple Sep 3 #83

You aren't going to be able to talk sense into a crazy idiot with a gun. hamsterjill Sep 3 #84

We have criminal laws as an attempt to control the behavior a crazy idiots with guns. Ilikepurple Sep 3 #105

I don't think I've told others that they must abandon their parental methods. hamsterjill Sep 3 #106

Another good thing JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #93

You bring up a good point. hamsterjill Sep 3 #104

The media LOVES to take a few minor incidences and turn it into a 'trend'. Feel Good Inc Sep 3 #77

Ahh yes - and the Halloween Candy Poisoning 1983 JustAnotherGen Sep 4 #124

More than "a few" ... this is definitely a trend / fad that' gotten out of hand. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #133

No it's not lmao Feel Good Inc Sep 4 #146

The homeowner was arrested and charged with murder MorbidButterflyTat Sep 3 #79

Indeed he did JustAnotherGen Sep 3 #94

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Sep 4 #108

There is no purpose Lifeafter70 Sep 4 #113

More like Death Wish challenge. Brainfodder Sep 4 #127

Let's see JustAnotherGen Sep 4 #130

Your post is the perfect example of an "Appeal to Extremes." sop Sep 4 #128

Right. Sure it is. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #129

It's the textbook example. sop Sep 4 #132

That's an imaginative take. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #134

Yours was an imaginative and speculative post. sop Sep 4 #140

Well... your take is wrong. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #141

So, what is the purpose of your post? sop Sep 4 #142

That question has been asked and answered, repeatedly, in many different ways. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #143

No one is harassing and bullying you. It's merely an interesting exchange of ideas and viewpoints. sop Sep 4 #144

Yes... sure... that's all it is. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #145

We saw this when Trayvon Martin was murdered. yardwork Sep 4 #137

Kicking a door in is asking to be legally shot. This is a stupid game with lethal rewards. marble falls Sep 4 #131

However, the child who was murdered didn't kick anything. yardwork Sep 4 #135

No shit, he was ambushed and shot in the back, I think you are conflating two different events. marble falls Sep 4 #136

The OP is conflating two different events. yardwork Sep 4 #138

No it's not.... it asked a question and provided context. We have our answer... he did not donkey-kick the door. Oopsie Daisy Sep 4 #139

What one can legally do isn't always the same as what one should do Kaleva Friday #152

What an unambiguously delightful exchange Orrex Sep 4 #148

Did I log into Nextdoor by accident? Or is this DU? Blue_Adept Friday #154

Tiktok needs to issue permanent bans pinkstarburst Saturday #156

Ringing and running is fairly innocuous behavior. DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #157