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In reply to the discussion: Looks like shooter's roomate didn't know anything about the shooting, thought it was someone else [View all]Wiz Imp
(7,261 posts)64. you claimed "It was obtained via subpoena from Discord."
There is no evidence at this point which confirms that. Your position seems to be that the texts as published have already been legally determined to be true.
Meanwhile, constitutional attorney KrisAnne Hall said sharing the texts could damage the trial because the testimony and evidence has not yet been vetted by the court.
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IS UTAH TRYING TO LOSE THIS CASE?! - UT v Robinson
I just watched Utah Prosecutor Jeff Gray publicly read aloud private text messages, interviews, and alleged confessions during a press conference - BEFORE TRIAL - about UT v. Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk Shooting Case)
He even referred to them at the press conference as FACTS. Are you kidding me?
Oversharing inculpatory evidence like this is a HUGE constitutional no-no.
Even the slap on of a vague disclaimer like we want a fair trial, the damage is already done.
Also, the statements by Gray of "We will not be speaking to the press during the trial" AFTER READING ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED BY THE COURT, is a lame and empty attempt to cover this massive violation of
= due process, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, etc
= the presumption of innocence,
= and the integrity of the entire case.
This is not just an error in strategy, this is potentially a legally destructive action.
We will see motions to:
Suppress tainted jury pools
Request sequestration or gag orders
Move for change of venue
Seek exclusion of evidence due to taint or even
Mistrial!
Ultimately, the defense may assert reversible error on appeal if the court fails to act
It is NOT a subject up to interpretation. There is long standing case law on this.
The Supreme Court in Sheppard v. Maxwell, 384 U.S. 333 (1966) reversed Sheppards conviction, ruling 72 that he was denied a fair trial due to a failure to shield the proceedings from prejudicial media coverage.
Majority Opinion (Justice Clark):
The Court held that while freedom of the press is essential, it must not override a defendants right to a fair trial.
I just watched Utah Prosecutor Jeff Gray publicly read aloud private text messages, interviews, and alleged confessions during a press conference - BEFORE TRIAL - about UT v. Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk Shooting Case)
He even referred to them at the press conference as FACTS. Are you kidding me?
Oversharing inculpatory evidence like this is a HUGE constitutional no-no.
Even the slap on of a vague disclaimer like we want a fair trial, the damage is already done.
Also, the statements by Gray of "We will not be speaking to the press during the trial" AFTER READING ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED BY THE COURT, is a lame and empty attempt to cover this massive violation of
= due process, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, etc
= the presumption of innocence,
= and the integrity of the entire case.
This is not just an error in strategy, this is potentially a legally destructive action.
We will see motions to:
Suppress tainted jury pools
Request sequestration or gag orders
Move for change of venue
Seek exclusion of evidence due to taint or even
Mistrial!
Ultimately, the defense may assert reversible error on appeal if the court fails to act
It is NOT a subject up to interpretation. There is long standing case law on this.
The Supreme Court in Sheppard v. Maxwell, 384 U.S. 333 (1966) reversed Sheppards conviction, ruling 72 that he was denied a fair trial due to a failure to shield the proceedings from prejudicial media coverage.
Majority Opinion (Justice Clark):
The Court held that while freedom of the press is essential, it must not override a defendants right to a fair trial.
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Looks like shooter's roomate didn't know anything about the shooting, thought it was someone else [View all]
bigtree
Tuesday
OP
Pretty much explains motive. Worse, it gives GOPers a bit more ammunition for their distorted view it's "radical left."
Silent Type
Tuesday
#4
Well, they're not texting about silly stuff - they're talking about the gravest subject imaginable - capital murder. NT
Midwestern Democrat
Tuesday
#51
That's a charging document. It was presented in court. It was obtained via subpoena from Discord.
LeftInTX
Tuesday
#31
It's on a direct message on the Discord app. At least that's what I first read.
LeftInTX
Tuesday
#41
I'm familiar with evidence rules and it is best to present as such during discovery.
LeftInTX
Wednesday
#65
I don"t know if it is me, but the dialogue between the two, sounds like it came from a 40's B Movie or a Hallmark movie
debm55
Tuesday
#22
It's a court document, not a media thing. Obtained from Discord server via a subpoena
LeftInTX
Tuesday
#32
Please tell me you took a second look and don't believe any of this nonsense.
roscoeroscoe
Wednesday
#62