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Wiz Imp

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64. you claimed "It was obtained via subpoena from Discord."
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:17 PM
Wednesday

There is no evidence at this point which confirms that. Your position seems to be that the texts as published have already been legally determined to be true.

Meanwhile, constitutional attorney KrisAnne Hall said sharing the texts could damage the trial because the testimony and evidence has not yet been vetted by the court.


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IS UTAH TRYING TO LOSE THIS CASE?! - UT v Robinson

I just watched Utah Prosecutor Jeff Gray publicly read aloud private text messages, interviews, and alleged confessions during a press conference - BEFORE TRIAL - about UT v. Tyler Robinson (Charlie Kirk Shooting Case)
He even referred to them at the press conference as FACTS. Are you kidding me?

Oversharing inculpatory evidence like this is a HUGE constitutional no-no.

Even the slap on of a vague disclaimer like “we want a fair trial,” the damage is already done.

Also, the statements by Gray of "We will not be speaking to the press during the trial" AFTER READING ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN VETTED BY THE COURT, is a lame and empty attempt to cover this massive violation of
= due process, 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment, etc
= the presumption of innocence,
= and the integrity of the entire case.

This is not just an error in strategy, this is potentially a legally destructive action.

We will see motions to:
Suppress tainted jury pools
Request sequestration or gag orders
Move for change of venue
Seek exclusion of evidence due to taint or even
Mistrial!
Ultimately, the defense may assert reversible error on appeal if the court fails to act

It is NOT a subject up to interpretation. There is long standing case law on this.

The Supreme Court in Sheppard v. Maxwell, 384 U.S. 333 (1966) reversed Sheppard’s conviction, ruling 7–2 that he was denied a fair trial due to a failure to shield the proceedings from prejudicial media coverage.

Majority Opinion (Justice Clark):
The Court held that while freedom of the press is essential, it must not override a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

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This pretty much sums it up. WarGamer Tuesday #1
I'm going to guess that from the way he mentioned his dad turning MAGA bigtree Tuesday #3
A quote from roommates family: WarGamer Tuesday #6
Lance Twiggs fully cooperated and is not on trial. Quiet Em Tuesday #16
Those statements are necessary to understand the motive of Robinson. WarGamer Tuesday #17
They don't explain his motivations. Quiet Em Tuesday #19
Pretty much explains motive. Worse, it gives GOPers a bit more ammunition for their distorted view it's "radical left." Silent Type Tuesday #4
That would seem to contradict most of the posts here the last several days MichMan Tuesday #11
yup... WarGamer Tuesday #12
Par for the course I suppose. MichMan Tuesday #24
We still don't know Tyler's political leanings, Quiet Em Tuesday #39
a minor nit to pick RussBLib Wednesday #63
That sums up the mother's rationale, not Tyler's. Quiet Em Tuesday #13
This isn't going to end well indusurb Tuesday #2
That's the disturbing problem with today's revelations. Silent Type Tuesday #5
why? bigtree Tuesday #7
Why what? indusurb Tuesday #8
fuck them bigtree Tuesday #14
Lot of recent chatter on Twitter along those lines Shrek Tuesday #18
"I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." BeyondGeography Tuesday #9
I hope the roommate is left alone and the identity is kept secret fujiyamasan Tuesday #10
I didn't see it in the press conference today SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #21
Already identified the day of the arrest. Daily Mail has name and pictures. LeftInTX Tuesday #29
Looks like Trump's gatekeepers are celebrating. Kingofalldems Tuesday #15
... WarGamer Tuesday #25
I seriously doubt that most people reason like Trump and the right want us to bigtree Tuesday #26
Kash Patel wrote that bs in my opinion. Kids don't text like that. 1WorldHope Tuesday #20
How do they text? n/t Shrek Tuesday #28
Not in 50-word paragraphs, that's for sure. tinrobot Tuesday #42
Well, they're not texting about silly stuff - they're talking about the gravest subject imaginable - capital murder. NT Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #51
It's not anything close to how 20 year olds communicate tinrobot Wednesday #53
That's a charging document. It was presented in court. It was obtained via subpoena from Discord. LeftInTX Tuesday #31
So Robinson was texting via Discord? leftstreet Tuesday #35
It's on a direct message on the Discord app. At least that's what I first read. LeftInTX Tuesday #41
Waiting for a post stating that Musk planted it over star link MichMan Tuesday #36
LOL! I'm waiting for a post that blames Chuck Schumer! LeftInTX Tuesday #40
The charging document does not mention the source Wiz Imp Tuesday #43
It says discord LeftInTX Tuesday #44
That's not the charging document Wiz Imp Tuesday #46
Affidavit of Probable Cause LeftInTX Tuesday #47
you claimed "It was obtained via subpoena from Discord." Wiz Imp Wednesday #64
I'm familiar with evidence rules and it is best to present as such during discovery. LeftInTX Wednesday #65
That's John Barron's work if I've ever seen it still-prayin4rain Tuesday #45
I don"t know if it is me, but the dialogue between the two, sounds like it came from a 40's B Movie or a Hallmark movie debm55 Tuesday #22
Y'all............. OneGrassRoot Tuesday #23
I agree with you. debm55 Tuesday #27
It's a court document, not a media thing. Obtained from Discord server via a subpoena LeftInTX Tuesday #32
I have a hard time believing this is real Diraven Tuesday #30
Voice to text. That's what my son does. LeftInTX Tuesday #33
If it's voice to text Diraven Tuesday #38
Discord is weird Lurker Deluxe Tuesday #48
Some of the language is weird though Mosby Tuesday #49
It's the words used as well.. OneGrassRoot Tuesday #50
Yup and I believed right from start this was the motive DemocracyWorks Tuesday #34
It would have made sense fujiyamasan Wednesday #54
I wonder who planted this "evidence" Bluestocking Tuesday #37
it reads like they staged it to give the impression... Mark.b2 Tuesday #52
I am Fawny Wednesday #55
Awfully random, why do you think "a black woman"? marble falls Wednesday #58
Welcome to DU Fawny! Yes, an inside job. flying_wahini Wednesday #60
Why are we still talking about a killing that happened over a week ago? Emile Wednesday #56
We can do both Just_Vote_Dem Wednesday #57
I think the Discord messages are an alibi for the roommate. joshcryer Wednesday #59
These text messages or whatever they are are bizarre. yardwork Wednesday #61
Please tell me you took a second look and don't believe any of this nonsense. roscoeroscoe Wednesday #62
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