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MadameButterfly

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35. Yeah but it's not that simple

Reply to markie (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:27 PM

Sep 17

When someone you revered for a historic peace agreement becomes implicated, the guy's accomplishments and positive impact on the world don't go away because he has this other side. You wish he didn' thave this other side.

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BOMBSHELL! Massie names one of the men Epstein trafficked girls to [View all] Wiz Imp Sep 17 OP

Was the magician the guy that made the 747 disappear? wolfie001 Sep 17 #1

Yep. That was David Copperfield. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #3

oh markie Sep 17 #2

Nugent? Skittles Sep 17 #5

Surely he didn't meet the pedo wealth and prestige standards the pedo trafficker set. MLAA Sep 17 #17

See lyrics to Ted Nugent's song Jail Bait. multigraincracker Sep 17 #18

I....er....would honestly prefer not to Skittles Sep 17 #25

While I Loathe Nugent.... ProfessorGAC Thursday #41

Phil Collins & Mick Jagger were in Epstein's black book Wiz Imp Sep 17 #11

Please let it be the Nuge ms liberty Sep 17 #15

Rock STAR, eh? swong19104 Sep 17 #19

Good answer markie Sep 17 #20

What about Trump ????? Trueblue1968 Sep 17 #24

Mr. Deer in-the Headlights has his Deer Park bottle. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #4

A millionaire and his wife, A movie star, the professor and Mary Ann here on Epstein's Island. patphil Sep 17 #6

I find the whole thing sad and painful MadameButterfly Sep 17 #7

yes, sad markie Sep 17 #9

Yeah but it's not that simple MadameButterfly Sep 17 #35

K&R UTUSN Sep 17 #8

Based on people in Epstein's little black book Wiz Imp Sep 17 #10

or TSF. nt Trueblue Texan Sep 17 #26

Yeah, but I doubt it is Trump Wiz Imp Sep 17 #29

Thanks for this! Karma13612 Sep 17 #12

Prince Andrew was a well known admirer of Epstein. kimbutgar Sep 17 #13

Post removed Post removed Sep 17 #14

One of the hallmarks of supposed 'great men' is to think they can make their own rules. Aussie105 Sep 17 #16

Italian car company? Chemical Bill Sep 17 #21

WAPO in late July 2025 found that 86% of U.S. adults support releasing all the files in the Epstein case. ancianita Sep 17 #22

Chickens coming home too roost. republianmushroom Sep 17 #23

"A Hollywood Producer worth a few hundred million dollars" Polybius Sep 17 #27

Could be. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #31

I guess it's hard to say, since he did his own thing and had tons of money Polybius Sep 17 #33

Royals have to be on it durablend Sep 17 #28

Massie all but named Prince Andrew as one of the Wiz Imp Sep 17 #30

Not mad for monarchies, but Charles and yorkster Thursday #36

Surreal SomedayKindaLove Sep 17 #32

It's going to be a Who's Who of rich middle aged men who Warpy Sep 17 #34

Unless there's video, there is no more bombshells Johnny2X2X Thursday #37

That is false. There is only one person who has "sworn testimony" saying they were raped by Trump. Wiz Imp Thursday #40

Whoever is trying to sweep this story under the rug is doing a horrible job Torchlight Thursday #38

Oh, my... Hugin Thursday #39