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In reply to the discussion: America is 'going broke slowly' says J.P. Morgan, as national debt balloons and tariff revenue looks shaky [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)43. Link please. Kelly rightly condemns tariffs for being a regressive tax that hurts the poor
You would not want to be reflexively cynical, would you? So you have some facts before posting before posting, right? Please show your homework.
https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/adv/insights/market-insights/market-updates/notes-on-the-week-ahead/the-trouble-with-tariffs/
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Tariffs would provide a new source of revenue for our government. However, if these higher tariffs were used to pay for cuts to income tax, they would be replacing a progressive form of taxation with a very regressive one. That is to say, income taxes disproportionately hurt the rich. Tariffs disproportionately hurt the poor.
Progressive taxation rates are higher on the rich, which is as it should be, disproportionately "hurting" them by design instead of hurting the poor.
If tariffs are levied as a flat-rate import tax on goods, and assuming the import share of goods consumption is the roughly the same for rich and poor, the percent of pre-tax income paid as tariffs by the poorest 90% of households would be more than twice as high, (that is to say in a ratio of 28% to 13%), compared to the top 10%.
For another perspective, here is JP Morgan's 2024 political contribution / lobbying report. See if you can find the word "president" or the word "trump" in there. See if you can find a bias between D versus R in there.
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmorganchase/documents/about/political-engagement-report-2024.pdf
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America is 'going broke slowly' says J.P. Morgan, as national debt balloons and tariff revenue looks shaky [View all]
Historic NY
Oct 19
OP
Damage will become evident to magats long after trump exits..theyll blame Dems
BlueWaveNeverEnd
Oct 19
#15
Why do you say that? Explain specifically with reference to David Kelly, Ph.D.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#9
There are enough people actually responsible that we don't have to scatter-shot toss blame around
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#23
No. Nothing in the statement makes it sound like "income from other countries".
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#16
Dave Ramsey talks about getting out of debt. You make the hole (debt) smaller paying it down. You stop the hole from
3Hotdogs
Oct 19
#12
Huh. With dozens of criminal finance geniuses in charge, sucking our blood dry with interest and fees
librechik
Oct 19
#14
Please reference the specific report you saw about who they supported for president.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#20
Please show specifics. I've searched (have you?) and I'm not finding support for your contention.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#44
Your contention is NOT supported by facts. My facts show that Morgan and Dimon were neutral.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#46
My facts show roughly equal funding and no endorsement. You have no facts.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#48
Kelly, not Walker. Where do you get Walker involved in this? Not a hint of JP Morgan in Walker's bio.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#37
And yet Morgan has been the team that promoted $trillion tax cuts for the richest Americans
dlk
Oct 19
#27
Link please. Kelly rightly condemns tariffs for being a regressive tax that hurts the poor
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#43
Your claim about JP Morgan could not be backed up with credible facts. I am judgemental about unsupportable claims. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#51
JP Morgan, March 3, 2025, month before announcement & two before implementation,
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#53
Your second paragraph nails it, ... the historically unsustainable concentration of wealth & income in the 1%. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 19
#40
But not the size of debt that the service on it... costs more than the Pentagon.
WarGamer
Oct 19
#55
In 1936, conservatives sought to use mandatory taxes to close a deficit... in an attempt to kill the new deal.
WarGamer
Oct 20
#60
So you'd prefer automatic spending cuts, which is what conservatives want to do TODAY.
W_HAMILTON
Oct 20
#62
BILLIONAIRES ARE LOOTING THE US Treasury, thanks to TRUMP and his GOP accomplices!
Jack Valentino
Oct 19
#58