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gulliver

(13,662 posts)
17. Here we go again with the Manchin, Sinema pattern.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:19 PM
Nov 21

Someday, we'll learn. This post is not unusual around here, so my comments are not directed at this post but to all those with the same attitude.

It should be obvious that Fetterman absolutely needs to be moderate in a key purple swing state, Pennsylvania. We just seem to want to keep cutting off our noses to spite our face. SMH. We need to win elections.

Fetterman identifies as a Democrat, a member of the Democratic Party. To me, that puts him miles above anyone who doesn't. Cough, Bernie and Zohran, cough. I want to see our party strong. If we're going to be a big tent, I'd much rather have more fully-committed, moderate Democrats (like Spanberger and Sherrill most recently). Democratic Socialists, for example, are welcome to caucus and vote with us. But they are a different party, and we should remember that.

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"Nice book" said Triumph the Insult Comic Dog oasis Nov 21 #1
It'll probably be remaindered by February... regnaD kciN Nov 21 #2
I love John Fetterman. Halicarnassus Nov 21 #3
Welcome to DU. Good fit? Celerity Nov 21 #5
"Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice" Thomas Paine Ping Tung Nov 21 #13
Fetterman campaigned as a progressive and bent the knee to Trump Immediately Emile Nov 21 #6
Everything I've seen on him over the last Ilsa Nov 21 #26
Not really. His record and policies weren't super progressive. Activists just liked his wife and Bernie vouched for him thebigidea Nov 21 #41
Do a web search, did Fetterman campaigned as a progressive? Emile Nov 21 #43
Fetterman is a damn good fit for republicans. Not a good fit at all for Democrats. Autumn Nov 21 #7
+1 Emile Nov 21 #9
Now, that makes sense. H2O Man Nov 21 #34
He's more popular with Republicans than with either Independents or Democrats muriel_volestrangler Nov 21 #8
And yet, his constituents bought zero copies of his books. Not a good fit at all, apparently. Scrivener7 Nov 21 #10
No, he's not a good no matter the state themaguffin Nov 21 #14
oh boy -- welcome to DU obamanut2012 Nov 21 #15
You state in your profile you are "not a wokester" -- what does that mean? obamanut2012 Nov 21 #16
I think it implies a desire towards incrementalism, centrism mr715 Nov 21 #23
"wokester" is an informal, often derogatory, term used to describe Autumn Nov 21 #32
Yes, this is what I am saying. mr715 Nov 21 #33
Wonder if Fetteman ever has any Cha Nov 21 #4
Karma is sweet! lark Nov 21 #11
Yep, there is no base for him anymore. He scammed people and he's politically done beyond his term themaguffin Nov 21 #12
Here we go again with the Manchin, Sinema pattern. gulliver Nov 21 #17
He campaigned and WON as a left wing progressive. Emile Nov 21 #18
Doesn't matter one bit to me. gulliver Nov 21 #19
But what if Mad_Machine76 Nov 21 #21
He has standing in the team due to his democratic election. gulliver Nov 21 #25
Are you suggesting Mad_Machine76 Thursday #48
There is no Democratic Socialist party in the US. Incanus Nov 21 #20
I heard on NPR this morning that Mamdani "identifies as a Democratic Socialist" gulliver Nov 21 #24
Mamdani is a Democrat, he was elected twice as a Democrat. Incanus Nov 21 #27
Exactly +1 Emile Nov 21 #29
He was elected as a Democrat but identifies as a Democratic Socialist gulliver Nov 21 #35
Lol, sure. You said he belonged to a different party Incanus Nov 21 #36
Thanks. I take "lols" as concession. gulliver Nov 21 #37
And I'll take your admission that you were wrong as concession. Incanus Nov 21 #38
It's not maligning someone to not deify them. gulliver Nov 21 #39
No one deifies Mamdani, he has charisma and talent and solidly won his race. Incanus Nov 21 #42
The tent is most certainly big enough for Fetterman and Mamdani gulliver Nov 21 #44
We can agree to agree then. Incanus Nov 21 #45
Good night gulliver Nov 21 #47
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 21 #22
How go the hoody sales? Sneederbunk Nov 21 #28
Giant hoodies with short pants BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 21 #46
Never warmed to this guy. He always set my spidey senses off. Joinfortmill Nov 21 #30
;-{) Goonch Nov 21 #31
Maybe more will sell when another TP shortage hits yaesu Nov 21 #40
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