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34. OK. It's clear that your reading comprehension is limited, since we - apparently - agree ...

Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:05 PM

Nov 22

... on almost everything, yet we still seem to be adversaries. I don't know how many times I have to explain what I use this tech for, but I've reached my limit.

I resent your implications that I 'simply can't remember', that I'm incapable of organizing on my own, that my doctors are 'dumb', that I 'let AI do my thinking for me', blablabla, all the other insults and lectures.

I feel that you are purposefully behaving in an argumentative manner, just for the sake of conflict, and I do not appreciate it. This could have been a constructive, supportive conversation; unfortunately that's not the case.

This type of interaction is one of the major reasons why I have a low post count, despite the fact that I've been here since DU's inception. It just is not worth it. It's also the reason why I don't do ANY social media; likewise, it's not worth it.

You have a nice holiday, you hear? Bless your heart.

On the way out, here's a little project for you. Recently I received a notice from Consumer Reports on the hazards of heavy metal contamination in protein supplements. This was of interest, since one of my docs was recommending a protein supplement. The article was great, but I wanted to dig much deeper into the nuances of this topic, even though I'm not a scientist. Take a look at these studies and explain to me how they support or refute each other, what might be the absolute risk vs relative risk, how the study methods compare, how the Consumer Reports analysis of the data compares to the interpretation and analysis of each one of these studies, what the consensus is on whether we even need protein supplements, etc. By the way, I *did* read all 8 of these papers.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7509468/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12286494/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10994440/
https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10815430/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6521232/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10761008/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10458782/

Thanks.

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Something Disturbing Happens When You "Learn" Something With ChatGPT [View all] highplainsdem Nov 22 OP

Only for those who take it at face value. I immediately expect something to be wrong-- at least partially and hlthe2b Nov 22 #1

Yes that's the totally sensible approach ... to distrust the information until it has been corroborated FakeNoose Nov 22 #25

Also understand how low even that bar was. Remember the disdain for "Google University" RockRaven Nov 22 #2

I've seen so many people posting "I ran this by Chat GPT and this is what it came up with" or chia Nov 22 #3

That is so cringe-worthy to me. I can't believe how uncritically people have accepted this Iris Nov 22 #10

If you're going to use AI... ultralite001 Nov 22 #4

It's Cliff Notes in a new incarnation. Speedy and shallow. IMO. nt allegorical oracle Nov 22 #5

I'll bet Cliff Notes at least had 'some' human review. And the notes were revised over the years. erronis Nov 22 #11

Sure ... the Cliff Notes were written by live humans FakeNoose Nov 22 #26

;-{) Goonch Nov 22 #6

Whatever chatbot(s?) generated that AI-promoting AI slop answer for you makes no reference at all highplainsdem Nov 22 #9

Please don't tell other people what to post. Jack Valentino Sunday #40

This is a message board for people to communicate, not a display for AI slop. If it's treated as acceptable highplainsdem Sunday #41

Yeah, we all have our crosses to bear.... Jack Valentino Sunday #42

It was a request saying please, not an order. As for your availing yourself of the technology - it's unlikely highplainsdem Sunday #43

I put my use of any technology whatsoever which will help me to oppose TRUMP Jack Valentino Monday #44

Kick SheltieLover Nov 22 #7

Thanks! highplainsdem Nov 22 #21

Yw. Ty for being our resident expert on ai slop! SheltieLover Nov 22 #22

Doing a google search is hardly the best way to learn something to begin with... Wounded Bear Nov 22 #8

I have been using Google's 'NotebookLM', I think with good results. rog Nov 22 #12

Why aren't you writing those reports yourself, if they're supposedly from you? And why do you want highplainsdem Nov 22 #20

I'm not sure I'm communicating effectively. rog Nov 22 #27

I emphasized writing for yourself because writing is critical to thinking and shouldn't be turned over highplainsdem Nov 22 #33

OK. It's clear that your reading comprehension is limited, since we - apparently - agree ... rog Nov 22 #34

You ignored my pointing out that genAI tools are fundamentally unethical because they're trained illegally highplainsdem Nov 22 #35

You're just a wealth of information, aren't you? rog Sunday #36

If you had spent a bit more time simply googling, you'd have learned quickly for yourself that natural highplainsdem Sunday #37

(sigh) re: your assumptions about my diet ... vegan since about 1974 ... rog Sunday #38

Sigh. I haven't "singled you out" - I've posted hundreds of threads here on the pitfalls of using genAI, highplainsdem Sunday #39

I like going down the research holes of Wikipedia, pubmed, phys.org, Medscape, etc. erronis Nov 22 #13

Butlerian Jihad... BurnDoubt Nov 22 #14

This!!! paleotn Nov 22 #19

The ship has sailed. Professors are using it now Sympthsical Nov 22 #15

And there are more and more studies showing how harmful AI is, how much it dumbs users down. highplainsdem Nov 22 #23

We've said the same about social media Sympthsical Nov 22 #24

It's the end of humanity. We're doomed. QueerDuck Nov 22 #16

Dumb comparisons, and you know it. Or should. highplainsdem Nov 22 #18

so much wrong with AI barbtries Nov 22 #17

You can also create your own 'custom' search engine to do that ... rog Nov 22 #30

Seen on one of my fitness sites last spring: CrispyQ Nov 22 #28

Butlerian Jihad... BurnDoubt Nov 22 #29

OOPS!!! BurnDoubt Nov 22 #31

Seems Obvious OC375 Nov 22 #32