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Old Crank

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13. Just disgusting,

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Nov 23, 2025, 12:05 PM

Nov 23

I was told, that after forgiveness you were supposed to change your behavior. Not continue year after year with the same behavior. I have to wonder what the percentage of ministers of all types are child sexual abusers. And what the percentage is in the general population.

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Duluth, MN Church Shaken by Long-Time Child Sexual Abuse Story [View all] MineralMan Nov 23 OP

Past the paywall UpInArms Nov 23 #1

It was in today's Sunday paper. MineralMan Nov 23 #3

I understand UpInArms Nov 23 #5

The ProPublica story and the big four-page story in the Strib are the same. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #4

Yes. One, though, is behind a paywall. MineralMan Nov 23 #6

ProPublica often collaborates with local news sources to help expand coverage, and that's what they did here. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #7

Thanks for that information. MineralMan Nov 23 #8

Kick dalton99a Nov 23 #2

Just another fucking cult. flvegan Nov 23 #9

Pretty much. MineralMan Nov 23 #10

Stories like this come nearly daily. News of the Cults. NotHardly Nov 23 #11

Yes. They're rare, though, in major metro area news outlets. MineralMan Nov 23 #12

Just disgusting, Old Crank Nov 23 #13

I don't know the numbers, frankly. MineralMan Nov 23 #15

Pedo's are ForgedCrank Nov 23 #26

religion is where the REAL child grooming is Skittles Nov 23 #29

This story reminds me of the huge expose MPR did on the systemic abuse going on in Grand Marais awhile back. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #14

Yes. Such stories are far from being rare, I'm afraid. MineralMan Nov 23 #16

Im glad the vitims have a good lawyer, sue that sick church out of existence BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 23 #17

A church full of sickos BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 23 #18

Thank goodness for the victims that came forward and Sgt. Adam Kleffman. chowder66 Nov 23 #19

Apparently, that church thinks Jesus said, "Suffer, little children..." MineralMan Nov 23 #20

Thank you for quoting that. I wanted to scream in rage when it was posted niyad Nov 23 #21

Yeah, that's how it hit me too. The main preacher in the interview w/ investigators strikes me as chowder66 Nov 23 #23

May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad Nov 23 #22

This Church is Duluth Township, Far Northeastern Edge of St. Louis County. waterwatcher123 Nov 23 #24

They own multiple construction businesses, both residential and commercial, as well as all sorts of shell companies/ WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #25

Your are right about the direction (my mistake). waterwatcher123 Nov 23 #28

The companies change regularly as they declare bankruptcy and then start up again with difference names. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #30

Thanks - I will have to check the Secretary of State's site to see if this company is legally incorporated/dissolved. waterwatcher123 Nov 23 #34

for what? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #35

Evil LoisB Nov 23 #27

Routine forgiveness becomes acceptance.... Norrrm Nov 23 #31

Western, authoritarian churches lend themselves multigraincracker Nov 23 #32

Churches. It's always churches. KentuckyWoman Nov 23 #33