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Tom Rinaldo

(23,128 posts)
20. This should be it's own OP.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
Dec 2012

As to Social Security, here is something I would like to see talked about more. For many decades Social Security took in more than it spent. The surplus as I understand it, by law, was invested in T bills. The Federal government is now paying interest on those T Bills to Social Security, but at some point new payroll taxes plus that interest will fall short of the amount that Social Security must pay out each month.

Social Security was never designed, far as I can tell, to function by "living off" the interest from its savings. That interest was a natural by product caused by generating a surplus over decades and since there was a surplus piling up of course it could and should earn interest. Now we talk about the graying of America, but isn't that a moving demographic bump that will work it's way through our population over the next few decades? Mortality dictates that even the Boomers won't be around for ever. The non-white population tends to have slightly larger families and that population is growing as a percentage of Americans - in particular Latinos are. So won't Social Security at some pending point move out of the red on a monthly basis again?

I admit that I don't have the figures, but it seems likely to me that after generating Trillions of dollars in surpluses over decades, that Social Security has the money saved to supplement outgoing payments to aging boomers until they like all those before them cross that rainbow bridge. That of course assumes that the money that Social Security piled up for just such a contengency was made available to use when the need actually arises. The period of time it will be needed is not permanent, just like those surplus decades that went before was not permanent. Will mid 21st Century America still be "graying"?

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Congress is NOT ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #1
Without resorting to speculation about the future; the Republican House is. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #2
Tom, I want to ask you the same question I just asked RKP. Just a yes or plethoro Dec 2012 #3
No, I don't. Maybe if the debt ceiling isn't raised something could happen to S.S. checks Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #5
Thanks...........nft plethoro Dec 2012 #13
I think you are correct because Social Security, Medicare and Veterans Benefits are exempted Samantha Dec 2012 #21
Not ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #6
Thanks........nft plethoro Dec 2012 #14
NO Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #18
Thanks. It's your caveat that concerns me.......nft plethoro Dec 2012 #29
The republican House is not congress ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #4
Not to be a stickler, but Pelosi already called Chained CPI "strengthening Social Security" Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #10
Mind if I send this to my Congressman? obxhead Dec 2012 #7
Absolutely. n/t Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #11
You can't deny that we have spending problems socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #8
Sure, but humans are rarely capable of absolute efficiency. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #12
Of course it is n2doc Dec 2012 #9
Actually, I think we have a deficit problem... Lefty Thinker Dec 2012 #15
This is why we need COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! We need OUR representative Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #16
Cost of Running a Great Country Left Turn Only Dec 2012 #17
This should be it's own OP. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #20
Actually, Social Security was never designed to live off Social Security taxes jmowreader Dec 2012 #24
That's exactly what I said: ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 #19
but to believe it is a revenue problem... mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #22
So Your Argument Is DallasNE Dec 2012 #25
No, not arguing that, just trying to have a realistic conversation mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #30
But You Are The One Making That Argument Then DallasNE Dec 2012 #31
Starting Point: Those who defend permanetly giving tax cuts to the rich can't demand austerity... Tom Rinaldo Dec 2012 #27
Of Course It Is A Revenue Problem DallasNE Dec 2012 #23
Excellent. Thanks. freshwest Dec 2012 #26
of course it's a revenue problem. that's why they keep denying it. unblock Dec 2012 #28
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