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17. There would be no patriot act without Ralph Nader throwing the 2000 election to Bush

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:00 PM

Dec 2012

No wars
No 9-11
No corrupt supreme court ruling

all because Nader sided with the Bush admin. to throw him the election either on purpose or because he was an idiot

either way, it is his fault

He singlehandedly stifled the vote, and it was one of the lowest turnouts ever in 2000
and in NH his votes could have given Gore 270

so, yes, it has everything to do with Nader and the Naderites.

It would be simliar to a car filled with 4 people go to a gas station
3 get out and rob the station and kill the people inside
The driver had no knowledge and would be no part of it
except all 4 are arrested and guilt is equal.

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Senate Votes (73-23)to Extend Sweeping Bush Era Surveillance Power (for Five Years?) WTF! [View all] KoKo Dec 2012 OP

Bipartisanship when it comes to screwing the masses. daa Dec 2012 #1

+1. the bipartisan bills are typically screw jobs. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #30

Lincoln would have done the same thing. Bobby wiretapped MLK secretly too, remember that graham4anything Dec 2012 #2

Lincoln believed he was operating under authority of the Constitution. OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #4

Rather disgusting that you would use the wiretapping of MLK kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #12

As Elizabeth Warren said- anything is on the table with regard to Iran and terrorist. EVERYTHING graham4anything Dec 2012 #13

If it was legal, what was that retroactive immunity for? OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #15

There would be no patriot act without Ralph Nader throwing the 2000 election to Bush graham4anything Dec 2012 #17

Obama reneged on his promise to filibuster OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #18

That is the most idiotic argument I've ever seen in my life. a11ig8r Dec 2012 #34

I disagree with both of your points. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #22

Anything goes in wartime and we are at war, right here against the coup'd'etat of the NRA folk graham4anything Dec 2012 #31

"Anything goes in wartime and we are at war..." R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #32

A good president can have the same law a bad one does. Don't elect Jeb in 16 graham4anything Dec 2012 #36

If Obama didn't want it, he could veto it. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #3

and it would be overwritten. Now they count and don't bother wasting space with a veto graham4anything Dec 2012 #14

If Obama didn't want it, he could veto it. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #16

He could be on record for being against infringement of our liberties. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #23

BTW-MY 1st amendment essential liberty is abused by the 2nd amendment folk graham4anything Dec 2012 #37

I'm sorry to hear that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #39

circular.symmetry. I like that. graham4anything Dec 2012 #43

Don't cha know Koko? Puglover Dec 2012 #5

lol's seem so..... was hoping to hear rebuttal from KoKo Dec 2012 #6

USA! USA! USA! progressoid Dec 2012 #7

Who are the 23 who voted against it? JVS Dec 2012 #8

So, why is OUR government so hot to spy on us? LisaLynne Dec 2012 #9

The "MIC" pays the bills for their election funding...(many enough in both House & Senate). KoKo Dec 2012 #11

Got to so we can catch bin Laden... Octafish Dec 2012 #10

The social engineering networks Rex Dec 2012 #20

Mark Lombardi connected bin Laden And Bush with his Art. Octafish Dec 2012 #25

Always my friend. Rex Dec 2012 #26

George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens Octafish Dec 2012 #28

Required reading for anyone with critical thinking skills. Rex Dec 2012 #35

Mark Lombardi! A Genius who "Connected the Dots" as an artist and REVEALED it..before he died. KoKo Dec 2012 #38

Big Brother wants to win at any cost. Rex Dec 2012 #19

American KGB n/t L0oniX Dec 2012 #21

I believe that the KGB never had as much info on their citizens as the US does R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #24

I bet this is right. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #40

This crap they are somehow able to come together and get done. CanonRay Dec 2012 #27

"Come Together Over Shared Interests" .....the rest is SCARE Tactics...FISCAL CLIFF! KoKo Dec 2012 #42

No worry. The Great Protector of Civil Liberties in the White House will veto it...won't he? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #29

The first time I voted for him I thought he would. I am not so gullible now. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #33

Wow, just a biting as the first time someone used that line with legislation they didn't like. great white snark Dec 2012 #41

I can't find who the 23 are who voted "Nay" BlueStreak Dec 2012 #44

Here it is. BlueStreak Dec 2012 #45

Thanks. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #46